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... and perhaps if another boss stumbles into the Vault he'll drop them as well. ;)

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That tiny little closet is getting crowded.

Just have your new boss kick Sartherion and the Three Lizards out and take over the island.

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my first first page?

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And mine!


*Edit*
Argh. Nope.

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All Wrath of the Lich King raids and Heroic dungeons will drop Emblems of Triumph when patch 3.3 hits. The Daily Random Heroic will award Emblems of Frost for completing the dungeon. Emblems of Frost will drop in the 10- and 25-player Icecrown Citadel raid... and perhaps if another boss stumbles into the Vault he'll drop them as well. ;)

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Meaning all heroic bosses will drop triumph emblems with 3.3 in place of conquests emblems?

More imporantly...please please please break the VoA bosses out into their own IDs? It's a bit silly have 4 tiers worth of bosses all locked to the same raid ID.

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All Wrath of the Lich King raids and Heroic dungeons will drop Emblems of Triumph when patch 3.3 hits. The Daily Random Heroic will award Emblems of Frost for completing the dungeon. Emblems of Frost will drop in the 10- and 25-player Icecrown Citadel raid... and perhaps if another boss stumbles into the Vault he'll drop them as well. ;)

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Well, that clears up everything for me, and I have to say it's awesome... Didn't want to get too excited before I knew the facts. I can finally gear up my alts without too much difficulty, yay.

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Meaning all heroic bosses will drop triumph emblems with 3.3 in place of conquests emblems?

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All Wrath of the Lich King raids and Heroic dungeons will drop Emblems of Triumph when patch 3.3 hits. The Daily Random Heroic will award Emblems of Frost for completing the dungeon. Emblems of Frost will drop in the 10- and 25-player Icecrown Citadel raid... and perhaps if another boss stumbles into the Vault he'll drop them as well. ;)

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All Wrath of the Lich King raids and Heroic dungeons will drop Emblems of Triumph when patch 3.3 hits. The Daily Random Heroic will award Emblems of Frost for completing the dungeon.

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All Wrath of the Lich King raids and Heroic dungeons will drop Emblems of Triumph when patch 3.3 hits.

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So yes. I think so.

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Emblems of Frost will drop in the 10- and 25-player Icecrown Citadel raid... and perhaps if another boss stumbles into the Vault he'll drop them as well. ;)

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Bornakk after a few too many?

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my first first :D

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Please don't post anymore

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So yes. I think so.

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All repetition aside, I don't lump "all heroics and raids" together with "all the bosses" because they are seperate and distinct entities. Boss =/= Heroic / Raid. All heroics and raids can just as easily mean the final boss will drop Triumph Emblems...but only the final boss and it would STILL be "all heroics and raids" without being all bosses.

In other words...check your attitude at the door. I want a totally and completely unambiguous answer.

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You need a full group of five people to start the Daily Random Heroic through the Dungeon System. If, however, a player leaves the group once everyone is inside the instance, the group can continue without filling the vacancy.

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I've been so excited about 3.3, but this hit like a wall of bricks.

I run a friends and family guild that is spread all over the world. While we have 12 or so guild mates, usually only about 4 are available on any given night to do the daily heroic. We've been playing together for so long none of us have an interest in pugging up that last person - it would lessen the fun of inside old college jokes of old class mates.

I'm not naive enough to think others' situations are very common to our situation, but I can provide my own feedback that I wish Blizzard would add a button to start the daily random heroic without a full group.

Alternatively, is there a way to start the daily random heroic without using the Dungeon System? (Since I believe I read that the NPC was being replaced with the random raid NPC.)

First Random Heroic, all bosses drop Triumph and final boss will drop Triumph and you will earn 2 Frost

First Random Normal, all bosses and final boss drops nada and you will earn 2 Triumph

All other Random Heroics will drop Triumph and final boss will drop Triumph and you will earn 2 Triumph.

All other Random Normal bosses will drop nada.

Blizzard is gearing people in T9 gear. To a lot of people who have been farming Conquest, they are pretty useless at this point. I wouldn't doubt that you will be able to downgrade to Conquest.

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Blizzard is gearing people in T9 gear. To a lot of people who have been farming Conquest, they are pretty useless at this point. I wouldn't doubt that you will be able to downgrade to Conquest.

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You can downgrade Conquest to get epic gems, any heirloom gear you missed, and the Wooly Mammoth if you don't have it.

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Yes, what I meant to say was that all bosses in the current Wrath of the Lich King raid and Heroic dungeons will drop Emblems of Triumph once 3.3 hits. I'll clarify that in my original post.

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Alright, awesome, that's what I wanted to know.

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Yes, what I meant to say was that all bosses in the current Wrath of the Lich King raid and Heroic dungeons will drop Emblems of Triumph once 3.3 hits. I'll clarify that in my original post.

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while this thread has your attention, can you confirm if LFR will be cross realm or not? ty (couldnt find any confirmations)

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I've been so excited about 3.3, but this hit like a wall of bricks.

I run a friends and family guild that is spread all over the world. While we have 12 or so guild mates, usually only about 4 are available on any given night to do the daily heroic. We've been playing together for so long none of us have an interest in pugging up that last person - it would lessen the fun of inside old college jokes of old class mates.

I'm not naive enough to think others' situations are very common to our situation, but I can provide my own feedback that I wish Blizzard would add a button to start the daily random heroic without a full group.

Alternatively, is there a way to start the daily random heroic without using the Dungeon System? (Since I believe I read that the NPC was being replaced with the random raid NPC.)

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allow the 5th unwanted player to join your group and be summoned into the instance. then have you and your 3 family/friends vote to kick the 5th pug. 4 votes and the pugger is gone. carry on as normal

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You can downgrade Conquest to get epic gems, any heirloom gear you missed, and the Wooly Mammoth if you don't have it.

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Yes, I mean downgrade from Triumph to Conquest. You can already go from Conquest down to Heroism. Like I said a lot of people that have been farming them, we have the mount, the heriloom, the PVP and everything in between and now they are collecting dust.

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while this thread has your attention, can you confirm if LFR will be cross realm or not? ty (couldnt find any confirmations)

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It's been stated, and I've used the LFR tool on the PTR, it's a list of people on your realm, not other realms, you can invite/gearcheck/whatever, to your hearts content, but only on your realm, for now.