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  • 0. Can you do the random daily with a non-pug?   10/28/2009 12:03:19 PM PDT
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It wasn't entirely clear if this was possible. Sometimes I PUG the daily heroic, or partially pug it but a lot of times we make a number of guild runs. So, this random dungeon thing.....will it be for pugs only or can fully formed groups also do it? (worst case scenario we form four and pick up the 5th I guess).

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  • 1. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu   10/28/2009 12:05:00 PM PDT
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It wasn't entirely clear if this was possible. Sometimes I PUG the daily heroic, or partially pug it but a lot of times we make a number of guild runs. So, this random dungeon thing.....will it be for pugs only or can fully formed groups also do it? (worst case scenario we form four and pick up the 5th I guess).


Fully formed groups can do it.

From patch notes ->

Players can join as individuals, as a full group, or a partial group to look for additional party members.

Also, it's not just a daily, if you do the first one, you get frost emblems, but you can continue to do random heroics for 2 Triumph emblems, per dungeon cleared.

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  • 2. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu   10/28/2009 12:05:15 PM PDT
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You can queue as a group, yes. If your group is a 5-man premade, you will still get the extra emblems but you will not earn any credits toward the Pug pet.
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  • 3. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu   10/28/2009 12:07:25 PM PDT
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Fully formed groups can do it.

From patch notes ->

Players can join as individuals, as a full group, or a partial group to look for additional party members.

Also, it's not just a daily, if you do the first one, you get frost emblems, but you can continue to do random heroics for 2 Triumph emblems, per dungeon cleared.


Yeah, and since bosses will now drop triumphs instead of conquest I imagine people will be geared up to i232 very quickly

EDIT: And thanks. good to know people can still guild run the daily heroic.

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  • 4. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu   10/28/2009 12:10:16 PM PDT
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Can you choose to do the random heroic daily with a premade group of 4 without having to pug the 5th slot or does the new lfg ui not allow that?
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  • 5. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu   10/28/2009 12:10:55 PM PDT
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Yeah, and since bosses will now drop triumphs instead of conquest I imagine people will be geared up to i232 very quickly

EDIT: And thanks. good to know people can still guild run the daily heroic.


Just wondering, where did you see that bosses will drop triumphs now?

I can't find that anywhere, and I don't think it's accurate.
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  • 6. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu   10/28/2009 12:17:15 PM PDT
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Just wondering, where did you see that bosses will drop triumphs now?

I can't find that anywhere, and I don't think it's accurate.


HMM, I'm virtually certain it was stated somewhere but now I can't seem to find it.

Perhaps they reconsidered.
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  • 7. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu   10/28/2009 12:33:19 PM PDT
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Everything that drops Emblem of Conquest right now will drop Emblem of Triumph in 3.3

ICC raid dungeons will drop a new emblem, Emblem of Frost.

Random daily heroic using the new system will award 2x Emblem of Frost a maximum of once per day.
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  • 8. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu   10/28/2009 12:36:04 PM PDT
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Everything that drops Emblem of Conquest right now will drop Emblem of Triumph in 3.3

ICC raid dungeons will drop a new emblem, Emblem of Frost.

Random daily heroic using the new system will award 2x Emblem of Frost a maximum of once per day.



Okay, you say everything will be dropping Triumph also, but do you have a source?

I still can't find anything official on this. I'm not calling anyone a liar, I'm just looking for verification from a Blizzard source, cause I've heard many many things called facts by players, that turned out to be incorrect.
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  • 9. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu   10/28/2009 12:37:34 PM PDT
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Fully formed groups can do it.

From patch notes ->

Players can join as individuals, as a full group, or a partial group to look for additional party members.

Also, it's not just a daily, if you do the first one, you get frost emblems, but you can continue to do random heroics for 2 Triumph emblems, per dungeon cleared.


When patch 3.3 hits there is no daily herioc. The first herioc you do you get emblems of frost from the final boss and after that any herioc you do the final boss drops triumph. You can get 2 emblems of frost a day from doing this. Daily heriocs turning into weekly raids.

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  • 10. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu   10/28/2009 12:38:40 PM PDT
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Everything that drops Emblem of Conquest right now will drop Emblem of Triumph in 3.3

ICC raid dungeons will drop a new emblem, Emblem of Frost.

Random daily heroic using the new system will award 2x Emblem of Frost a maximum of once per day.



Wrong, 2 embelms of frost for the final boss of the first herioc you do of the day. After that when you do a herioc you get triumph FROM THE FINAL BOSS, everything else will be conquest.

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  • 11. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu   10/28/2009 12:40:35 PM PDT
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Okay, you say everything will be dropping Triumph also, but do you have a source?

I still can't find anything official on this. I'm not calling anyone a liar, I'm just looking for verification from a Blizzard source, cause I've heard many many things called facts by players, that turned out to be incorrect.


http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20122741378&sid=1&pageNo=7#126
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  • 12. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu   10/28/2009 12:43:46 PM PDT
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Wrong, 2 embelms of frost for the final boss of the first herioc you do of the day. After that when you do a herioc you get triumph FROM THE FINAL BOSS, everything else will be conquest.

Wrong, unless they changed it. Last I heard from any Blizzard source, everything that drops Conq now will drop Triumph in 3.3. I have no source at the moment, but I'm sure people remember the massive QQ threads of "ppl will get full t9 from heroics"


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  • 13. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu   10/28/2009 12:44:19 PM PDT
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From the information I am gleening, I'm seeing a whole different system emerging.

I haven't seen anything about any changes to what the bosses will drop directly. This leads me to assume that it will still be conquest emblems.

Using the Random Dungeon system, you will be awarded 2 frost emblems once per day upon killing the final boss. Successive runs will then award 2 triumph emblems. Random normal dungeons will award 2 triumph emblems.

If you want to run a specific heroic, no frosts and no triumphs. Only conquests. Essentially you get to "repeat" the current heroic dailies until you run out of heroics that you can run, and the first one awards frost emblems instead of the current triumphs.

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  • 14. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu   10/28/2009 12:47:00 PM PDT
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Emblems of Triumphs in 3.3
Quote from: Bornakk (Source)
General reminder: Things can still change.

The current plan is to make Emblems of Triumph the "base" of emblems so everything that drops Emblems of Conquest would be changed to Triumph and then the new raid content would drop the new highest emblem along with things like the heroic daily and such.


Everything that drops Conquest will drop Triumph. Same as Heroism to Conquest.
You simply get an extra two Frost from dungeon 1 since there is no more heroic daily.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?tpstart=35

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  • 15. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu   10/28/2009 12:47:01 PM PDT
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Yes, you can do the Daily Random Heroic with a premade group.

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Can you choose to do the random heroic daily with a premade group of 4 without having to pug the 5th slot or does the new lfg ui not allow that?

You need a full group of five people to start the Daily Random Heroic through the Dungeon System. If, however, a player leaves the group once everyone is inside the instance, the group can continue without filling the vacancy.

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Just wondering, where did you see that bosses will drop triumphs now?

I can't find that anywhere, and I don't think it's accurate.

All Wrath of the Lich King bosses in the current raid and Heroic dungeons will drop Emblems of Triumph when patch 3.3 hits.

The Daily Random Heroic will award two Emblems of Frost upon completion (can be done once a day). The Daily Random normal dungeon will award two Emblems of Triumph upon completion (can be done once a day). If players continue to select "Random" via the Dungeon System when running Heroic dungeons after the Daily Random Heroic dungeon has been completed, they will receive two additional Emblems of Triumph for each random Heroic dungeon completed.

Emblems of Frost will drop in the 10- and 25-player Icecrown Citadel raid... and perhaps if another boss stumbles into the Vault he'll drop them as well. ;)

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  • 16. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu   10/28/2009 12:47:01 PM PDT
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my first first :D

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  • 17. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu   10/28/2009 12:47:37 PM PDT
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Posted by Bornak on 10/06/2009 04:21:27 PM PDT

"General reminder: Things can still change.

The current plan is to make Emblems of Triumph the "base" of emblems so everything that drops Emblems of Conquest would be changed to Triumph and then the new raid content would drop the new highest emblem along with things like the heroic daily and such. "
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  • 18. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu   10/28/2009 12:48:34 PM PDT
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Man, I am so anxious to get to use the new LFG system :)

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