Ok, I have a serious question about the "DE" option thats coming in instances. I've read the blue post in the patch notes. It is as follows:

Group Disenchanting Option: In addition to rolling Need or Greed on items, players now have the option to elect for an item to be disenchanted. Disenchant works exactly like Greed except if a player wins the Greed roll, they will receive the disenchanted materials instead. Players who choose Need will always win the item and will always beat those that choose Greed or Disenchant.

My question is "will everyone see the "DE" button, or just those of us with the enchanting skill?" I'd really like to have this answered. I think it would clear up a lot of the confusion about the issue.

Thank you
Tarrissa of Aerie Peak

so.... no one knows or is unwilling to answer?

/pout


also /bump

Everyone in the group/raid sees the DE button provided said enchanter possess enough skill to DE the item. (it is greyed out otherwise)

I would like to see a blue post on this but thanks for the info.

hmm I wasn't too upset about this change really until I began to think that everyone would have access to the shards/dusts...

So remind me again why I leveled enchanting?

Sounds like you are about to start a rant. Take that to the 500 other enchanting posts and let this one drop there is plenty of discussion about it already.

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I would like to see a blue post on this but thanks for the info.

hmm I wasn't too upset about this change really until I began to think that everyone would have access to the shards/dusts...

So remind me again why I leveled enchanting?

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Becaue you wanted access to enchants and the materials.

It's put in because you can't trade items cross server and with the new cross server lfg the new de system bypass's this issue by auto deing the item and sending it to the winner if everyone chooses de.

You won't see more mats on the AH because greens will more then likely be greeded as they always have been except possibly in close knit groups and guild runs.

All that is going to happen is you don't have to de at the end of a run. If you were not offering to de anyway, then you sucked to begin with.

Dont get me wrong guys. I'm not ranting. I'm just trying to understand how its going to work. I am always more than willing to DE for runs. Yes, even pugs :) Guild runs most items go to me to DE anyway since I do a lot of enchants for guildies.

I'm just not sure how fair its going to be.

Personally, I would like to see the change... er, changed a bit. No enchanter is needed in group for one. And the option for DE only comes up on boss loot. I hate vendoring blues. XP

Its going to be funny seeing people in LFG (aka trade chat) saying things along the line of: LF1M, need enchanter.

My question is if you roll greed and everyone else chose to de then do you win it? If I was an enchanter (and an a$$) in that case I would just roll greed on all drops and d e for myself. If everyone else chose to de and i chose greed for offspec maybe and it got turned into enchanting mats that would suck as well.

Really the whole thing really sucks no matter how you look at it.

1. Copy a character to the PTR
2. Log into the PTR
3. Form a PUG, go into an instance
4. See for yourself.

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I'll just run with this real quick.

If you are already DE for runs, all this change does is make it easier for you to do what you already do.


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¸.•' .•'¨¨)) Frejya -:¦:-
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Except, of course, when you realize that you can't "pass out shards at the end" and that one guy with lucky dice may walk away with 100% of the shards, while the enchanter that makes it happen gets zero.

So this change could potentially wreck "what you already do".

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I'll just run with this real quick.

If you are already DE for runs, all this change does is make it easier for you to do what you already do.


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¸.•' .•'¨¨)) Frejya -:¦:-
((¸¸.•' ...•' -:¦:-

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The "what you already do" is done by choice now.

The enchanter chooses to do it. This change forces him to do it. It takes away the freedom of the enchanter to make the choice to do it.

thanks Frejya, but that still doesnt answer the original question. Will all players in the instance see the "DE" button or not?

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Personally, I would like to see the change... er, changed a bit. No enchanter is needed in group for one. And the option for DE only comes up on boss loot. I hate vendoring blues. XP

Its going to be funny seeing people in LFG (aka trade chat) saying things along the line of: LF1M, need enchanter.

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This is the first reasonable request I've seen about this. I have no problem sending greens I won to my pocket DEer, just like I do now.

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hmm ok. so when do I get to roll on ore/herbs/leather? only fair, right?

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Apples and oranges. Go read the other ten billion threads about this.

REMEMBER:


If you like being a d/e, and if you like passing out shards at the end of the run.... YOU MUST CHANGE YOUR BEHAVIOUR.

If you PUG, you must now make these two announcements at the beginning of each run:

1. If you win a shard, you pass on the rest of them
2. Everyone do a /roll -- the winner gets to roll d/e on the epic at the end, the losers don't.

Because you can't pass out shards at the end of the run with this.
One guy with lucky dice can win them all.


Even if you set up rules 1 and 2 above, it won't stop a complete stranger from another realm rolling d/e on the abyss when he shouldn't.




Your "friendly passing out of shards at the end of a run" just got convoluted.