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Dylae

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Arathor

0. I gotta ask why... 11/05/2009 10:34:17 AM PST

Level 1s no longer start with food or water. Who is exploiting this or too dumb to figure out how food/water work?

Weirdest....patch...evar!

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Cairne

1. Re: I gotta ask why... 11/05/2009 10:35:57 AM PST

QQ some more.. You could always just bug a Mage make you some, or waste 30 copper for it..

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Proudmoore

2. Re: I gotta ask why... 11/05/2009 10:36:29 AM PST

we are in a recession in case u didn't know

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Spinebreaker

4. Re: I gotta ask why... 11/05/2009 10:36:42 AM PST

I thought that was a pretty odd change, too.

But... then again, I usually end up with low-level food after a couple kills anyway.

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Bloodhoof

5. Re: I gotta ask why... 11/05/2009 10:37:00 AM PST

With the change to increased health / mana regen before level 10 they won't need food anymore. Besides, doesn't everyone just vendor them? I know I do when I make a new character since I never need it and it just takes bag space.

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Nagrand

6. Re: I gotta ask why... 11/05/2009 10:37:23 AM PST

wait what? since when has this kicked in?

Haters gonna hate.

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7. Re: I gotta ask why... 11/05/2009 10:37:48 AM PST

it has to do with the 200% increase in health and mana regeneration when you start out. so you really dont need food or water.

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Silvermoon

10. Re: I gotta ask why... 11/05/2009 10:38:13 AM PST

Q u o t e:
Level 1s no longer start with food or water. Who is exploiting this or too dumb to figure out how food/water work?

Weirdest....patch...evar!

Dylae

I believe with the current leveling rate, and other changes they're making to early leveling (increased health and mana regen, lack of daze, better weapon selection) that by the time you would need to start eating and drinking between battles, you'll be level twelve, and level 1 water will be moot.

Edit : someone beat me to it, and no the casters won't need the water with having double mana regen for ten levels. The amount of mana level 1 water gives back is trivial to begin with.

[ Post edited by Nakitani ]

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Shadowmoon

11. Re: I gotta ask why... 11/05/2009 10:39:01 AM PST

That is kind of weird. But I don't think anyone will really miss it, lol.

Weebz

Mannoroth

12. Re: I gotta ask why... 11/05/2009 10:39:23 AM PST

I was pissed when i saw this, i can no longer spend an hour making level ones, mailing the copper from selling that water to my main, and mkaing 14 silver an hour.

HOW DARE THEY

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Velline

Hydraxis

13. Re: I gotta ask why... 11/05/2009 10:39:51 AM PST

is there some sort of psychological problem that prevents people from reading the entirety of patch notes? Must be like selective hearing, but for the brain/eyes.

Nethaera

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14. Re: I gotta ask why... 11/05/2009 10:46:33 AM PST

Q u o t e:
Level 1s no longer start with food or water. Who is exploiting this or too dumb to figure out how food/water work?

Weirdest....patch...evar!

Dylae

Actually, we've adjusted mana and health regen at low levels (in the upcoming patch) so that food and water aren't really necessary right at the start. Believe it or not, it's not about someone being too "dumb" to figure something out so much as realizing that not everyone enters into playing the game with a knowledge of how MMOs work. Food and water is just one more thing for a new player to learn about very quickly when starting the game and we'd like to ease players into how things work as they go along. They'll learn all about food and water soon enough after.

Keep in mind, for many people, (even veteran players) they didn't realize they could drink and eat at the same time early on in the game. Imagine being brand new to MMOs and having to learn the mechanics and complexities of what are considered very simple things to experienced gamers.

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Windrunner

15. Re: I gotta ask why... 11/05/2009 10:50:35 AM PST

Q u o t e:
Keep in mind, for many people, (even veteran players) they didn't realize they could drink and eat at the same time early on in the game. Imagine being brand new to MMOs and having to learn the mechanics and complexities of what are considered very simple things to experienced gamers.

Yikes, that took me a grand total of 3 years to figure that one out. Thank you loading screen tips!

But yeah, I checked on PTR: the regen rates create zero downtime at 1-6.

Oh, and red text for First.

[ Post edited by Vsin ]

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Laughing Skull

16. Re: I gotta ask why... 11/05/2009 10:54:33 AM PST

Q u o t e:
Casters need the water.

not really.

Karvi

Khaz Modan

17. Re: I gotta ask why... 11/05/2009 10:55:16 AM PST

It's a conspiracy to deny new characters of money.

New characters start with ZERO coin.
They must do something to gain their first few coppers. Kill a mob that drops coin as loot, sell vendor trash from mobs killed, do a quest and get a reward, etc.

But they could also just sell their starting food and water and get a few coppers without having to do any activity at all. Just think, FREE COPPERS, just sell that free food and water you got at the start.

We can't have that.

(Disclaimer: this is a joke post)

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Proudmoore

18. Re: I gotta ask why... 11/05/2009 10:56:31 AM PST

Q u o t e:

Actually, we've adjusted mana and health regen at low levels (in the upcoming patch) so that food and water aren't really necessary right at the start. Believe it or not, it's not about someone being too "dumb" to figure something out so much as realizing that not everyone enters into playing the game with a knowledge of how MMOs work. Food and water is just one more thing for a new player to learn about very quickly when starting the game and we'd like to ease players into how things work as they go along. They'll learn all about food and water soon enough after.

Keep in mind, for many people, (even veteran players) they didn't realize they could drink and eat at the same time early on in the game. Imagine being brand new to MMOs and having to learn the mechanics and complexities of what are considered very simple things to experienced gamers.

I hope it changes things well. I remember trying to level a mage and going fireball fireball staff wack drink ever single fight. Going OOM and the mob is like 1/4 health was annoying. Heck I remember when tauren druids were like 1 wrath and oom at level 1.

I'm all for the ease of the lower leveling. not everyone has heirloom items that boost their mana supply.

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19. Re: I gotta ask why... 11/05/2009 11:01:57 AM PST

Q u o t e:
Yikes, that took me a grand total of 3 years to figure that one out. Thank you loading screen tips!

I, too, did not know it until it popped up on my loading screen one day after Wrath came out.

I'm regenerating 5 hp a second.

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