I like Oculus. I've done it a bunch, I should be wrapping up all the achs. for it this week if all goes well, it's really not that hard.

.. but I refuse to pug it. Even with a massively overgeared group the level of coordination required (kite the boss backwards in a circle, don't stand in the cone of death, stay together when we're on drakes, do your timestop rotations, don't keyboard turn turn the astral shift) is just too much to ask from a pug.

I have pugged it, but never without at least a couple of wipes due purely to coordination issues.

....So I haven't done Maly or Occ yet. I'm planning to avoid them forever.


Yes, I hate parts of WoW. Woo.

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Yeah...no.

Move too fast, you over shoot your pillars and either take many thousands of damage hugging a frosted pillar, move too slow and you won't reach it in time. Tank doesn't have the luxury of "not being in the frosty" either. He chain casts pretty much non-stop. Have a melee heavy group and you might as well just forget about it. You'll spend the next 30 minutes "watching" the fight as the tank does 90% of the damage.

And yeah sure you don't need a healer. By the way, the 12k frost bombs once the frost debuff reaches a full stack, and the 3k/second ticks as you're trying to walk out, or the 8k normal melee strikes would like to have a word with you.

You're living in a dream world where your healer has left you completely oblivious to just how bad this fight can be. Congrats on only proving my point. Having a really really strong healer is the only thing that makes this fight easy.

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hmm we usually kill this boss before we ever need to get behind a pillar, i think 19 seconds was our best time =)

everything in this instance is incredibly easy. unless you are going for the drake achievments. then it can be difficult to coordinate.

Occy is a pretty easy instance once one becomes acquainted with the last boss, which is especially easy if you run like 3emerald/2ruby or ruby/bronze/3emerald.

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well, lets rule some out instead.

NE = nexus or night elf?
NA= Naxx or Not Applicable
TC= Crusade or Champ?
UT=Keep or Pinnacla?
DE= Deadmines or Disenchant?

I dont think ive ever thought the letter combo OC ever meant anything but oculus. But if ur too dumb to realize this then for your sake we'll call it OCC. Then I'll just let u wipe until u give in to the fact that having a bit of common sense is better than QQing over being "literarilly correct" or whatever ur ped of an english teacher told u as he rubbed your back.

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Nexus is Nex to almost everyone
Naxx is Naxx
ToC is crusader
Up is Pinnacle, that's an acronym not an abbreviation
UK is Keep, again an acronym
VC is deadmines, DE is only disenchant.

I'm not sure if you aren't getting the point, or if you are just trying to be difficult. You ask why people use OCC, so I told you.

Of course OC doesn't stand for anything now, but the WoW community has long had the syntax of two letter abbreviations are always acronyms.

The point is that the wow community decides these acronyms. And while you may not always like the reasoning behind it, the name is what it is. OCC is OCC, because the world says so.

Edit: Technically, an acronym is an abbreviation, but an abbreviation is not necessarily an acronym. This may have made some of the above confusing to some people.

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....So I haven't done Maly or Occ yet. I'm planning to avoid them forever.


Yes, I hate parts of WoW. Woo.

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Will you pass on maly if it's the weekly in 3.3? I probably won't, but I don't like it too much.

I can't believe Occ is really that bad... but I don't know, because since hitting 80 on my first character (played extensively in TBC but then quit the game and only recently came back), I haven't found a single group for it. Not even for normal.

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Occy is a pretty easy instance once one becomes acquainted with the last boss, which is especially easy if you run like 3emerald/2ruby or ruby/bronze/3emerald.

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I always go with Ruby/Amber/Amber/Amber/Emerald

and we WIN

Get on your dragon!
Get off your dragon!
Get on!
Get off!
Get on!
Get off!

Watch the party clumsily aggro unnecessary mobs and cause a wipe!

Watch the party flail around and not know what the hell to do when fighting Eregos!

This instance is so much fun!

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I like Oculus. I've done it a bunch, I should be wrapping up all the achs. for it this week if all goes well, it's really not that hard.

.. but I refuse to pug it. Even with a massively overgeared group the level of coordination required (kite the boss backwards in a circle, don't stand in the cone of death, stay together when we're on drakes, do your timestop rotations, don't keyboard turn turn the astral shift) is just too much to ask from a pug.

I have pugged it, but never without at least a couple of wipes due purely to coordination issues.

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B/c of nubz in my last grp i had to 3 man EVERY BOSS CEPT MALY, which we 4 manned.

1st reason "im a hunter, let me pull it" (the boss 1 shot hima nd our mage deeps b4 the tank taunted away)
2nd reason " I wanna be red too"
3rd reason "i didnt see the arcane attack coming"
Last reason "When u get ur 80 out of greens and leave my groups forever maybe i'll consider healing ur sorry excuse for a hunter" (I said this)

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B/c of nubz in my last grp i had to 3 man EVERY BOSS CEPT MALY, which we 4 manned.

1st reason "im a hunter, let me pull it" (the boss 1 shot hima nd our mage deeps b4 the tank taunted away)
2nd reason " I wanna be red too"
3rd reason "i didnt see the arcane attack coming"
Last reason "When u get ur 80 out of greens and leave my groups forever maybe i'll consider healing ur sorry excuse for a hunter" (I said this)

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congratulations, you've graduated from the school of jerk wad.

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It's not that Oculus is hard, it's just annoying to pug when people don't understand the instance.

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what is there to understand? the mounts work the same as your own mount and you click 1 and 2 for mobs and 3 as well for the boss. if you get lost, which you shouldnt as there are only a few bloody floating platforms, there is a button to tell you where to go.

its right up there with AN and VH on level of ease.

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I can't believe Occ is really that bad... but I don't know, because since hitting 80 on my first character (played extensively in TBC but then quit the game and only recently came back), I haven't found a single group for it. Not even for normal.

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Do it in a pug. Then come back and do it again in an all-friends-list or guild group. You'll understand very quickly why most people who do Oculus on a regular basis think its fun but absolutely refuse to pug it.

Actually, if you're not getting groups you might have better luck getting some friends together to do it at a set time. You'll have a much better run anyway. Again, make sure to do your research first, it'll go a lot smoother.

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Ever since the gear scaling went into effect for this dungeon it has gotten much easier.

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It's gotten easier for people who know what they are doing. You don't seem to understand what sort of people will be using the new LFG system. I'm thinking the devs could stand to run a few more pugs of this thing.

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This is not allowed here. Please leave.

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No u. *angry face*

BTW, Myspace employees love you. Just saying.

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I always go with Ruby/Amber/Amber/Amber/Emerald

and we WIN

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Yeah, that definitely works if the bronze drakes don't pull aggro, which always seems to happen in my groups.

I love Occ now that drakes stack with gear, but nobody else on my horde server will do it.

They're all afraid. :(

Sadly I haven't gotten the regular daily done for about 4 days in a row now, aside from the 5th day when it was the Heroic daily as well... I think people felt forced to do it at that point.

It was a pretty horrid choice for a regular daily, imho.

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Occy is a pretty easy instance once one becomes acquainted with the last boss, which is especially easy if you run like 3emerald/2ruby or ruby/bronze/3emerald.

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what in the hell do you need 3heals for? wow. 2 of our bronze died one day and it was one of each left, with me healing, and lewls, it had to be the easiest thing i have ever done. it reminded me of my priest at level 30 in sm. bubble + renew = nap time.