What the hell is with almost every single plate craftable having tons of armor pen on it? Basically %@@%s us over in using crafted pieces. In fact, our tier 9 chest has armor pen on it. WHY?! Armor pen is one of the most USELESS stats for ret, why the hell can't you fools either A. make armor pen useful in SOME manner (increases holy damage done?) or B. put a non-armor pen version? Stop being such a fanboy to your warrior and DK babies.

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What the hell is with almost every single plate craftable having tons of armor pen on it? Basically %@@%s us over in using crafted pieces. In fact, our tier 9 chest has armor pen on it. WHY?! Armor pen is one of the most USELESS stats for ret, why the hell can't you fools either A. make armor pen useful in SOME manner (increases holy damage done?) or B. put a non-armor pen version? Stop being such a fanboy to your warrior and DK babies.

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Welcome to a locks itemization hell. WTB more spirit and haste!

every set of craftable gear before this patch for mail sp gear had mp5... welcome to being a ele shaman or a good resto shaman

lol hey Mystry

>.> It isn't like arpen doesn't benefit you at all.

So, uh...don't use the crafted stuff?

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I have no idea how that's prejudice.

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lol

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lol hey Mystry

>.> It isn't like arpen doesn't benefit you at all.

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Oh god, Baelther.

Yes it is virtually useless, 60% of our damage isn't affected by it at all.

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Oh god, Baelther.

Yes it is virtually useless, 60% of our damage isn't affected by it at all.

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If it makes you feel better haste is a pretty meh stat for me currently :p

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If it makes you feel better haste is a pretty meh stat for me currently :p

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Yeah but as far as I know leather DPS crafted gear doesn't have haste for over half its stat points.

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If it makes you feel better haste is a pretty meh stat for me currently :p

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They could put no Arp and make it bad for 2 classes or put Arp and make it bad for 1 class.

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Yeah but as far as I know leather DPS crafted gear doesn't have haste for over half its stat points.

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No it doesn't (thank you baby jebus) I'd blame Halmir and Fay Mystry

They both want ArP out the yin yang.

I, along with everyone else, already blame Halmir and Fay. But they are good at sucking up so blizzard doesn't change anything.

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They could put no Arp and make it bad for 2 classes or put Arp and make it bad for 1 class.

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Or they could put in a class mechanic or talent that allows Armor Pen to increase holy damage done and make it viable for every class.

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I, along with everyone else, already blame Halmir and Fay. But they are good at sucking up so blizzard doesn't change anything.

Or they could put in a class mechanic or talent that allows Armor Pen to increase holy damage done and make it viable for every class.

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I REALLY doubt that will happen 1 patch before an xpac that is removing armor pen from the game.

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What the hell is with almost every single plate craftable having tons of armor pen on it? Basically %@@%s us over in using crafted pieces. In fact, our tier 9 chest has armor pen on it. WHY?! Armor pen is one of the most USELESS stats for ret, why the hell can't you fools either A. make armor pen useful in SOME manner (increases holy damage done?) or B. put a non-armor pen version? Stop being such a fanboy to your warrior and DK babies.

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I was kinda shocked by this as well actually... at least one of the pieces should have been haste and your set items definitely shouldn't be arp >.<

Of course I don't think there should be any plate haste+arp pieces either and we definitely have them.

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I REALLY doubt that will happen 1 patch before an xpac that is removing armor pen from the game.

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Cataclysm will not be out for a loooooong time. They announced it to draw attention away from Aion.

Knew it was a paladin before opening the thread. Sigh.

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Cataclysm will not be out for a loooooong time. They announced it to draw attention away from Aion.

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It doesn't matter they aren't going to add redundant talents for one teir of content.

Give me dps cloth caster haste feets please.