That thinks resto druid are grossly overpowered in PvE? They're putting out 10K+ HPS all the time without breaking a sweat. Healing used to be fun for me, I could be on top every now and then, sometimes I wasn't and that's ok. I don't want to be the best healer always on top of the meter, I just want to be competitive but unfortunately I just CAN NOT keep up with rejuv/WG spam.

I mean really am I the only person who thinks resto druids are way over the top in PvE? It's pretty much pointless to bring any other raid healer besides a druid these days. Thanks blizzard, guess I'll go back to my Paladin so I can at least be useful to my guild.

0/10, lack of obvious grammar mistakes broke the entertainment value for me.

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0/10, lack of obvious grammar mistakes broke the entertainment value for me.

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I was looking for some good feedback, maybe even a blue but I know they turned a blind eye to anything that's not a paladin/druid. This guy in a different thread summed it up very nicely so I'll ask my question again but use his wording instead.

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Why play any healer any more other than a pally or a druid?
They both beat the heck out of priests and shamans.
They both are great at pvp.
They both can heal, tank and dps.
Blizzard is blind to it or wants it that way.

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Although I do not agree with the bolded part because I feel every healer is great in PvP if played correctly.

If you're looking for serious feedback step 1 is to not post on a forum troll.

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If you're looking for serious feedback step 1 is to not post on a forum troll.

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Why does my identity matter? I'm a player paying for the same services you are (WoW), I enjoy playing my class but I also like to be competitive. It's no fun to always be #1 but it's less fun to never be #1.
I just want to be able to keep up with the HPS of a paladin and druid, that's all. Is it really too much to ask?

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I just want to be able to keep up with the HPS of a paladin and druid, that's all. Is it really too much to ask?

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For a level 20 warrior? Yes. Yes it is.

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I was looking for some good feedback, maybe even a blue but I know they turned a blind eye to anything that's not a paladin/druid.
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First step towards getting good feedback is to provide something to get feedback on.

Forum troll character means we cant point out deficiencys, We cant look at your Druids and comment on their superb gearing,spec and glyph choice. No numbers means we cant compare to players of same class/spec and point out how you compare, No logs means we cant see where you are failing.

instead your you posted dribble that boils down to QQ. what do you expect besides a score on how good a QQ post it is? 1/10 btw.

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For a level 20 warrior? Yes. Yes it is.

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You're talking about a class that has the capacity to roll around large healing figures, yet without context, may not prevent people from dieing. I don't understand your point.

I'd rather see a Paladin work through 500k healing on Koralon or Gormok through keeping the tanks up more than a Druid rolling 1.5M from rolling Rejuvination and Wildgrowth needlessly outside of the Burning Breath phase across the entire raid.

If a raid leader is forming their opinions on raw figures without context, well, they're not really all that switched on.

Cheers,
Shimono

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You're talking about a class that has the capacity to roll around large healing figures, yet without context, may not prevent people from dieing. I don't understand your point.

I'd rather see a Paladin work through 500k healing on Koralon or Gormok through keeping the tanks up more than a Druid rolling 1.5M from rolling Rejuvination and Wildgrowth needlessly outside of the Burning Breath phase across the entire raid.

If a raid leader is forming their opinions on raw figures without context, well, they're not really all that switched on.

Cheers,
Shimono

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QFT

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You're talking about a class that has the capacity to roll around large healing figures, yet without context, may not prevent people from dieing. I don't understand your point.

I'd rather see a Paladin work through 500k healing on Koralon or Gormok through keeping the tanks up more than a Druid rolling 1.5M from rolling Rejuvination and Wildgrowth needlessly outside of the Burning Breath phase across the entire raid.

If a raid leader is forming their opinions on raw figures without context, well, they're not really all that switched on.

Cheers,
Shimono

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Quoting in the hope that someone might bother to read that.

For raid healing, our niche is throughput but not death prevention, and the lack of the latter is why we're entirely worthless without the bone blizzard threw us in the form of the former. Don't begrudge us our throughput, it's all we have.

For tank healing, yes, nourish is nice. However, in spite of all the QQ about raw numbers, no, that spell does not make us amazing tank healers. This is why the recurring threads that compare one spell to another in an attempt to prove that druids are OP fail: we're the only healing class that doesn't contribute some form of significant tank mitigation. That's huge. Nourish being a passably decent spell (only after a full compliment of HoTs have been applied, by the way) is the only thing that keeps us from completely sucking when the need for tank healing arises.

You haven't played a druid, and the grass isn't greener just because you've decided it is. Stop equating meters to effectiveness and enjoy the mitigation and burst heals I don't get to have.

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That thinks resto druid are grossly overpowered in PvE? They're putting out 10K+ HPS all the time without breaking a sweat. Healing used to be fun for me, I could be on top every now and then, sometimes I wasn't and that's ok. I don't want to be the best healer always on top of the meter, I just want to be competitive but unfortunately I just CAN NOT keep up with rejuv/WG spam.

I mean really am I the only person who thinks resto druids are way over the top in PvE? It's pretty much pointless to bring any other raid healer besides a druid these days. Thanks blizzard, guess I'll go back to my Paladin so I can at least be useful to my guild.

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Obviously your a priest, why not post on your main?

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You're talking about a class that has the capacity to roll around large healing figures, yet without context, may not prevent people from dieing. I don't understand your point.

I'd rather see a Paladin work through 500k healing on Koralon or Gormok through keeping the tanks up more than a Druid rolling 1.5M from rolling Rejuvination and Wildgrowth needlessly outside of the Burning Breath phase across the entire raid.

If a raid leader is forming their opinions on raw figures without context, well, they're not really all that switched on.

Cheers,
Shimono

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Are you saing you would rather bring someone to make it harder than someone that would make a fight easy?

And for the druid above me you can mt heal jsut as good as a priest or shammy, but are far superior in raid healing than the others.

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And for the druid above me you can mt heal just as good as a priest or shammy, but are far superior in raid healing than the others.

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We can't MT heal just as good as a priest or shammy. Give us a priest's pain suppression and pw:shield, or a shaman's ancestral healing, and earth shield, and then maybe we'll be comparable. As I said two posts up, one spell does not suddenly make us amazing. Direct healing isn't the whole picture, you badly need mitigations and absorbs.

We're not at all superior at raid healing, either. In fact, the only time we are a good choice for raid healing is on novelty fights like twin val'kyr and anub phase 3. If there is not sustained raidwide damage, the priests and shammies are doing far more to actually keep people alive, and all we have is high HPS that isn't actually doing any healing. In many fights I am forced to play ghetto healadin and nourish spam single raid targets.

None of you play a druid. None of you know how to read, either, apparently. I'm not sure why I waste my time.

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Healing used to be fun for me, I could be on top every now and then, sometimes I wasn't and that's ok. I don't want to be the best healer always on top of the meter

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healing meter =/= dps meter

The angry nerf druid mob mostly went away after shaman and paladins were buffed. You still see some people with torch and pitchfork in hand though. Priests mostly.

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That thinks resto druid are grossly overpowered in PvE? They're putting out 10K+ HPS all the time without breaking a sweat. Healing used to be fun for me, I could be on top every now and then, sometimes I wasn't and that's ok. I don't want to be the best healer always on top of the meter, I just want to be competitive but unfortunately I just CAN NOT keep up with rejuv/WG spam.

I mean really am I the only person who thinks resto druids are way over the top in PvE? It's pretty much pointless to bring any other raid healer besides a druid these days. Thanks blizzard, guess I'll go back to my Paladin so I can at least be useful to my guild.

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I'll bite.


You have 2 options; accept that your role while not chart topping is vital nonetheless - or - give up on healing forever, which by the sound of your whining for buffs is probably a good thing and will save your guild on lots of wipes.

On most fights I start out dead last in heals. I pace myself, read the damage patterns and start ramping up. Sometimes I'm on top, but usually I'm anywhere between 2nd and 4th.

The break down is usually Holy Paly, Resto Druid,2x Holy Priests, Resto Shaman (me), sometimes another druid or shaman.

I'm the lowest geared healer in the raid usually (just got some nicer pieces from ToC25 that I have to G/E) and I'm not popping Tidal Force every cool down like I probably should be but overall I fair very well.

If I die, the Raid feels it.

Am I the Top Healer in the raid? Not usually.

But I'm having fun and I'm keeping my raid alive. I don't know what more you need/want?