I'm pleased to announce to the tanking community that I've successfully tanked toc 10 on my shaman. mind ye i died at 5% on anub but fortunately our pally tank was alive to taunt and our heals were insane. My unbuffed EH going into this was 34k health and 22.5k armor (26k with ironshield pot up). I had very VERY basic avoidance (25% dodge 6.2% additional chance to be missed). Though i dont recommend someone rolling a shaman tank for their main tanking class, it can be a VERY fun proccy tank if your bored of your old warrior/baer tank.

These can all be browsed in one window through my youtube site
http://www.youtube.com/user/sharicasmi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPJpcqCC0SE
Demon lord Jaraxxis (Toc 10)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2Dddx8bSSM
Val'kyr Twins (ToC 10)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOCyKbOCmAg
Anub'arak (ToC 10)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PrUdlvLc-8
Onyxia 10man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk04kRS0I4M
Vault of Archavon (3.2.2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9Gc-jVWTzk
3manning Brewfest boss

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dZOaPrCuPw
Heroic 5man Trial of the Champion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNEj9LGn2og
Ignis the Furnace master (clean shot)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGlXlVIyUHE
Freya and conservatory trash (Ulduar 10)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sxk3KpSk7g
How to tank enhance feat. Sharicasmi pt2 (watch part 1 first)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCH5w2JBU58
First attempt at Ignis the Furnace Master (Ulduar 10)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvDLBom4bY0
All shaman os 10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJeLdCuX9ek
OS 10man 1 drake up (and a 3drake wipe)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m06rCaZuPc
Offtanking Naxx25 Anub'arak, Kel'Thuzad, and Patchwerk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftTCIqeaeLk
Vault of Archavon 10man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItqOkdtry4c
Eye of Eternity 10man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMqqV7LXcEk
Naxx 10 Four horsemen, Sapphiron and Kel'Thuzad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juw15ipY7do
Naxx 10 Maexxna, Gothik, Grobbulus and Thaddius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLHLWVQkufk
Naxx 10 Heigan the Unclean, Loathweb, and offtanking Patchwerk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPhjSVOrfKQ
^Heroic Nexus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNtICWv6jxQ
^Heroic Occulis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxRMLoIrEPs
^Heroic Ahn'Kahet: Old Kingdom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQjrGawXdpA
^Heroic COT strathholme timed run
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7FjScvQSJ0
^Heroic Azjol-Nerub
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFF_zcqPwHM
^Heroic Gun'drak and How to tank enhance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-0quttuOf4
^Heroic Utgarde Pinnacle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4v7ZQ9RfBA
^Heroic Violet Hold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98o0XYP5J-U
^Heroic Drak Tharon Keep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KN6eLfuUQk
^Heroic Halls of Lightning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDZ0ueF0E9w
^Heroic Halls of Stone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msiGxbxAEpM
^Heroic Utgarde Keep

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OMG now we have to compete with shamans?

You aren't getting my tanking weapons.

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Traditional tanking weapons tend to be terrible for Shaman: They can't use swords, they're far too fast for Stormstrike, and the STR itemization is useless.

It's the Frost DK tanks that will be fighting with Shatanks for the slow DPS one-handers

your tanking weapons suck anyways they're too high speed for Windfury lol

not quite. Resilience doesnt affect your stats displayed under defense. Resilience still reduces chance to be crit in pve (and crit damage taken, though you should NOT be getting crit in pve). I use a combination of resil/def to reach 5.6% reduced chance to be crit, similar to how druids did at 70. The only part of resilience that is exclusive to pvp is really just 'reduces all damage taken by x% against players pets and minions."
Shaman are simply a mini bear tank that stay alive through carefully managed cooldowns, instant cast self heals, and glyphed stoneclaw absorbs.

Not that it makes a difference to me, but I see nothing about NRB

Wow.......there's a Shaman I know that always jokes about tanking when we ask who is tanking what......but seriously.....that's awesome. That is just awesome.....healers have to be off the wall.

Keep up the good work!

And to whoever the warrior is who was crying about him being crittable......make sure to look at his stats before you talk. Resilience + Defense = uncrittable

Good job on putting together that gear set, I bet it's fun, but you're definitely a mana sponge. Lol.

I wonder if you might not make a shaman tanking guide to sticky? I realize there are detractors and this is a flavor aspect of the game, but it can't be denied that you are tanking these instances, and I'm sure many shaman would love to give it a try. I've watched your how-to videos, and they're pretty decent, but could use some development in particular rotations or priorities you use.

Aside from that, a question I find myself asking is over your frequent use of casting in your tanking the heroics. At what points would you deem it necessary to use a cast and close off your dodge/block tables in order to build threat?

Reminds me of the Moonkin I saw back in BC tanking Gruul.

Good job having some fun doing stuff outside of the normal way.

All I got outta the vids was that if you outgeared the encounter your raid can experiment around and do easy content in unorthodox ways. While interesting to watch it little more than a novelty act. Grats to the OP on getting his raid to agree to it which was probably the most difficult part of it.

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Reminds me of the Moonkin I saw back in BC tanking Gruul.

Good job having some fun doing stuff outside of the normal way.

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i did that on lilianara , it was fun.

All I had to do to laugh at this was look at the video's time. 10 Man Norm ToC is such a joke, my 10 man group blows through anub in ~90 secs (gg old Gotta Go achivement eh!)

Any class can tank if these conditions are met:

1) Uncrittable via Resil or Def
2) 30k Life
3) Healers that like wasting time on boss fights healing more than they have to - *its like delibretely standing in fire* - healers like that right?
4) dps who enjoy autoattacking bosses and going to make a sandwich so they dont pull threat.

DPS might not mind it, they do get a sandwich outa the deal. But for the healers and the time wasted not using a class with tanking talents/abilities, who would manage to pull more than a mighty ~2.3k tps, is more gratifying than any amount of e-peen points you may receive.

*Edit* I do kinda find it ironic that enhancement shamans have a greater stam increase in talents than warriors and dks do. Someone should do a spreadsheet, and see how much EH they have compared to the others, then watch some tanks ##@@% and moan about the results, regardless what they are =P.

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No one was crying you idiot. L2internet.

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So basically this means as long as your heals are uber, you can take a 33k crittable tank to ToC and down all the bosses?

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What i read here just annoyed me I guess.......1) This tank doesn't even understand what resilience does and 2) He's not even giving credit where credit is due. It just really seems like a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa pay attention to me and my annoying comments. So yes, crying, imo.

I agree on the crying supposition. What is the point in coming to this thread to tell him he performed sub-optimally in comparison to a traditional tanking class?

Because it's the internet? Way to have fun.

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At what points would you deem it necessary to use a cast and close off your dodge/block tables in order to build threat?

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The only times you should be casting anything as a tanking shaman, it should be instant cast. There are however times in heroics where Maelstrom will proc to 3 and you NEED to unload a chain lightning NOW, regaurdless that itll be a .9sec cast. When i tank heroics i generally try to shoot everything with 10-14k threat in the first 8seconds of combat, Maelstrom wont always proc to 5 right away, and we have to settle for 3 (-60% cast time) to get that second chain lightning off. Since we're generally only taking 1.7k-4k damage per swing in heroics, we can just pop a stoneclaw absorb before casting to eliminate spell pushback for that cast.

In 10man content everything MUST be instant cast aside from the initial pull. Its important to watch your cds, and determine (by how your well heals can keep you up) wether to use those MW stacks to self heal. I generally only use MW for heals when i dip below 50%. Some fights you need to save that heal and leave it stacked at 5 in anticipation of an influx in damage taken (Val'kyr fight, when they're about to gain a special ability). Note that the longer ye leave it stacked at 5, your wasting maelstrom procs, so fast judgement is crucial.

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I wonder if you might not make a shaman tanking guide to sticky? I realize there are detractors and this is a flavor aspect of the game, but it can't be denied that you are tanking these instances, and I'm sure many shaman would love to give it a try. I've watched your how-to videos, and they're pretty decent, but could use some development in particular rotations or priorities you use.

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Aspiring shaman tank i generally send to these links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFF_zcqPwHM
^Heroic Gun'drak and How to tank enhance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sxk3KpSk7g
How to tank enhance feat. Sharicasmi pt2 (watch part 1 first)

Part 1 is fairly old but gives you the basics of shaman tanking. Also gives you a general idea of what to expect going to tank your first heroic. Part 2 is just advanced techniques, itemization, how to get around not having taunt for gluth/beasts of northrend style fights.

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Grats to the OP on getting his raid to agree to it which was probably the most difficult part of it.

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I'm well known on my server for shaman tanking. I have good guild support, unlike many less fortunate shaman tanks, and I've pugged heroics with a couple hundred people. Setting up my shamans raids isn't that bad really, the healers were pretty excited to be able to participate in the event (there were 5 3-5k HPS healers initially, two had to go dps for us). I also play 2 other decently geared tanking toons so there's always a failsafe to fall back to if we hit a brick wall.

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4) dps who enjoy autoattacking bosses and going to make a sandwich so they dont pull threat.

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LOL my threat + my wifes tricks glyphed rogues threat = a net avg of 5ktps. Most tanks fail to notice the 'tricks of the trade' icon and buff and just assume they're always 10k tps because they raid with 2 rogues, even though each rogue is basicly giving their tank a net avg of 1.4k tps unglyphed 2k tps glyphed. Raid tanks have a hard time figuring out their AVG TPS when there's a rogue around, since their threat gets so inflated by the initial tricks. But yeah in all seriousness these folk are doing less than amazing dps because (if you armory them) youll notice alot of them aren't that geared, or dps is their offspec. It's the healers that are geared insanely for this group, the dps only has to meet toc 10 benchmarks.

/highfive