•Vampiric Embrace: This ability is now provides a 30-minute buff that cannot be dispelled, instead of a target debuff.

So shadow priests are now the best aoe healers in the game ? spriests can spit out 7-8k dps this gives them over 1,000 heals per second on everyone in the raid times at all times . . . There is 25 people in the raid thats 25,000 HPS and thats just 1 spriest. It seems abit overpowered. So raids now just stack 5 shadow priests and 1 holy paladin that will be plently enough healing for everyone.

This is a self buff for self healing only, and doesn't seem to be implemented on the PTR yet, even though it's in the notes.

I tried it out, still only puts a debuff on the target. All of the buffs to SPriests are awesome though, only tried out some PVP, but I was very happy with the changes.

If I pull numbers out of my ass, I can make Holy Priests look like overpowered tanks too.

The only thing that's changed is that it's a self buff instead of a debuff. It still heals your group 3% (5% improved) of the damage you deal. It's better for AOE fights or for multi-target fights because you don't need to put VE up on each target before you nuke.

In short, don't be stupid.

With these improvements, a fully buffed VE will grant 25% healing to self and 5% to the other four people in your group. That's something around 300 hps to each other person in group, which is the equivalent of a Renew if you were wearing a full set of blues.

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•Vampiric Embrace: This ability is now provides a 30-minute buff that cannot be dispelled, instead of a target debuff.

So shadow priests are now the best aoe healers in the game ? spriests can spit out 7-8k dps this gives them over 1,000 heals per second on everyone in the raid times at all times . . . There is 25 people in the raid thats 25,000 HPS and thats just 1 spriest. It seems abit overpowered. So raids now just stack 5 shadow priests and 1 holy paladin that will be plently enough healing for everyone.

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IIRC doesn't Vampiric Embrace only affects your group?

I don't see that being changed in the note, you?

I think you need to double check what percentage of damage is converted into healing, and whom it heals.

Quality of life changes like this VE change are still good. Its good to see some nice shadow priest buffs get in for 3.2. I still remember how people were up in arms at mages getting a 20% MS, yet shadow priests getting it was met with cries of "errrrrr..........who cares?"

By your logic Paladins are the best AoE healers in the game. GO GO GADGET JUDGEMENT OF LIGHT!

Actually, that 1k per second is spread out over the amount of people, not 1k per person per second.

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Actually, that 1k per second is spread out over the amount of people, not 1k per person per second.

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This statement makes as little sense as the OP. Read the tooltip of VE. Then imagine the words "Afflicts your target with..." replaced by "Gives you an aura of..." and there you have your new spell.

The only thing that will change about VE is healing done by Mind Sear on AoE packs. Which will be crazy talk.

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By your logic Paladins are the best AoE healers in the game. GO GO GADGET JUDGEMENT OF LIGHT!

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It could use a nerf, I used to be the only heal on top of the tank for vezax as a sham and that's only because earthshield.

The group limitation pretty shoots any fears of wildly spiraling Shadow heals in the foot. Even if you're the world's angriest Spriest you're still not as effective as JoL in a moderately meele heavy raid because you only have the four other targets.

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•Vampiric Embrace: This ability is now provides a 30-minute buff that cannot be dispelled, instead of a target debuff.

So shadow priests are now the best aoe healers in the game ? spriests can spit out 7-8k dps this gives them over 1,000 heals per second on everyone in the raid times at all times . . . There is 25 people in the raid thats 25,000 HPS and thats just 1 spriest. It seems abit overpowered. So raids now just stack 5 shadow priests and 1 holy paladin that will be plently enough healing for everyone.

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Sometimes I just can't tell if a person is misinformed or just plain dumb. This is one of those times when I can tell the OP is just plain dumb.

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•Vampiric Embrace: This ability is now provides a 30-minute buff that cannot be dispelled, instead of a target debuff.

So shadow priests are now the best aoe healers in the game ? spriests can spit out 7-8k dps this gives them over 1,000 heals per second on everyone in the raid times at all times . . . There is 25 people in the raid thats 25,000 HPS and thats just 1 spriest. It seems abit overpowered. So raids now just stack 5 shadow priests and 1 holy paladin that will be plently enough healing for everyone.

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Umm since when did Vampiric Embrace start affecting people outside of the priests party?

My understanding is that doing 7-8K DPS it will heal 4 people in your party for 350-400 hps. However, it will heal the priest for 1750-2000 hps (Fullly Talented = 3 point). For a grand total of 2100-2400 hps. 80% of this healing goes to the SPriest. So unless the priest has < max HP, 80% of this healing is always wasted.

Edit: You tack Devouring Plauge into the equation and SPriest can self heal themselves through most raid wide dmg. But the SPriests healing abilities pretty much end there, their ability to heal the raid while DPSing is limited to 4 players for 3-5% of the SPriests total dmg done. But pop out of shadow form and use a Divine Hymn and you can do some nice 8 seconds worth of raid wide healing.

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VE is unlikely to work with Mind Sear. Just sayin.

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And probably a good thing too. I get enough threat from that spell as is.

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VE is unlikely to work with Mind Sear. Just sayin.

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VE should be a buff that the shadow priest puts on one target. Any target in the Raid and that person gets healed for 25% of your damage, and yes it should not count Mind Sear Damage.

PvE we put it on Tanks or whomever. and in PvP we put on ourselfs.

Maybe let it stack 3 times on a target or maybe not. But It would be fun in PvE to have more control other then 5% to people whom are in your party.