I do a combination. I know someone who's love in this game is PVP and they are a clicker and an amazing one at that.

clicking is faster...


If you keybind abilities to the 5 available buttons (on most mice) and use modifier keys (ctrl, alt) with those buttons, you now have 15 actions mapable to your mouse. Combine that with fancy mouseover macros and... mmm yummy.

qwes ftw!

actually I use a combination of mapped mouse buttons with `12345rt and modifier keyed `12345rt

Mmm mapping a mouse key to ALT might speed up alt-keybinds.

god how i would love to see something go wrong with all bindings and UI add ons because if you folks cant play on the basic game without help then you sadly suck. and that is from someone who plays both ways KB/Click depending on the situation and need.

So for the love god get over yourselves and just play the game.

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People should play how they feel most comfortable. If someone is a faster clicker and it makes sense to them, then that's fine. If someone loves making macros and keybinds, that's fine too.

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This part of your statement is fine.

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Neither is better than the other

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This part however is not, Keybinding is infinitely better, your reaction time when an ability is a key press away is always going to be better then when you have to use the Graphical Interface to mouse over and click an ability.

Telling people they are special flowers because they play differently is fine, telling people they can get the same performance out of people who are binding for faster reaction is not.

If they ever get rid of the global cool down I will key bind. Till then I have about 1.3 seconds to find the next spell. For healing I have a multi button mouse that I hover over a name and click the spell I want on the mouse. One of the best tanks I have ever known clicks everything. It does not matter in this game.

But you are completely wrong. Don't need a "wise and powerful argument" to prove that.

I used to click. I tried mouse turning and keybinding one day, and found it awkward for a while, but then got used to it and love it.

Here's my only complaint: I'm a 5'3" female. They really need to come out with a line of keyboards made for people like me with short and stubby hands and short and stubby fingers. I can reach less keys than people with longer fingers. They need to make keyboards with smaller keys and less distance between the keys so I can have more keybindings. Just sayin'. :D

Edit: Also, smaller mice would be nice. Most are too large for my hand. It feels like I'm trying to 5-pin bowl again, but I can't grip the ball properly, so I have to shoot 2-handed between my knees.

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People should play how they feel most comfortable. If someone is a faster clicker and it makes sense to them, then that's fine. If someone loves making macros and keybinds, that's fine too. Neither is better than the other and many people even combine the two depending on the circumstance. It's about playing within your comfort zone. That's not to say that complacency is good. Trying new things will help broaden playstyle and make it more clear as to whether one will fit you better than another. But lambasting others for a choice in how they play is never productive or constructive.

The only way to lift other players up is to give them the chance to learn without fear of being put down for their mistakes.

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Clicker spotted!

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Thank you for your in depth and concise opinion. I'm sure you have swayed many to your wise and powerful argument. ;)

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well it would be right if keyboard turning was as fast as mouse turning. that is usually what this is all about.

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god how i would love to see something go wrong with all bindings and UI add ons because if you folks cant play on the basic game without help then you sadly suck. and that is from someone who plays both ways KB/Click depending on the situation and need.

So for the love god get over yourselves and just play the game.

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They break most UI mods every patch just because they have to be update, yet people keep playing somehow.

It's not that you can't play the game with the basic UI, it's that in some cases you're just accepting extra stress and risk of failure for no reason. The vanilla raid frames are just worse than Grid. They contain less information (can't show buffs + debuffs) in more space with more lag.

As for bindings, correct me if I'm wrong but bindings -are- vanilla. That's why there's a big old Keybindings button right on the menu. They're part of the base game.

I use only keybinds because I can't keep myself in working mice, so I'd be playing by trackpad. Which I could, but it wouldn't be much fun.

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well it would be right if keyboard turning was as fast as mouse turning. that is usually what this is all about.

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for melee characters maybe, not for ranged

I'll tell you now, clicking is much easier for a hunter than keybinding is.

I do both.

Does that make me evil?

Cause I want to be evil... >.<

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People should play how they feel most comfortable. If someone is a faster clicker and it makes sense to them, then that's fine. If someone loves making macros and keybinds, that's fine too. Neither is better than the other and many people even combine the two depending on the circumstance. It's about playing within your comfort zone. That's not to say that complacency is good. Trying new things will help broaden playstyle and make it more clear as to whether one will fit you better than another. But lambasting others for a choice in how they play is never productive or constructive.

The only way to lift other players up is to give them the chance to learn without fear of being put down for their mistakes.

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I, unfortunately, do not agree. :(

With clicking, you are required to use your eyes to single out the spell you wish to use, each time you wish to use it, then move your mouse cursor over to said spell, and click it. You can never "memorize" the hand movement of activating said spell because the hand movement is different depending where your cursor is currently on your screen. It's a free-range movement, therefore your brain has to re-register each time you wish to use an ability.

Keybinds, on the other hand, can easily be trained into the mind because your hand is able to memorize the feel of a keyboard due to its design. Every key will always be in the same place, regardless of which key you pressed previously. Therefore, your brain does not need to consciously draw a path from your finger to your key; it can just pull out of its pre-made reflexes that you trained into it with experience.

Also, if you click Rend, you can't move with your mouse. :( The fact that keybinding goes hand-in-hand with mouse turning is another huge advantage. No matter how hard you press a, d, or the arrow keys, your character will never turn faster than the almost instantaneous movement of mouse turning.

Keybinding and mouse turning makes full use of the keyboard and mouse and allows your hands to work in tandem with one-another, where as clicking and keyboard turning force them to work against one another, because your focus can't be split between them. You have to give your full attention to one, and then the other, for them to work even semi-effectively.

There, whereas most Keybinders just like to bash clickers, I gave my polite opinion on the matter. I'm a role model, yay. =3

It is pretty simple to understand that keybindings are faster than clicking your abilities.
You could even have your abilities in a tight little square of buttons so you've completely reduced how long it takes to move your mouse from one button to the next, keybinds are still faster.

There are a lot of factors that will allow you to perform better with keybindings than clicking.
Keybindings allow your cursor to be free to click on targets.

Keybindings allow you to move your camera much quicker than using your keybound to turn your character.

The average human finger reaction time is 0.19 seconds, how can you say moving your mouse and clicking is faster than 0.19 seconds?
Keybindings allow you to modified your action bars so they are invisible or action bars separated so your UI is less cluttered therefore being able to see more. As I mentioned before, a group of buttons so the time it takes to move your cursor to one button to the next is at it's minimal will take up a good portion of your screen.

Keybindings allow you to prepare to click on other things that aren't important enough for keybindings. If you really did keybind everything you could possibly use in a fight, you would have A LOT of keybindings.

BindScore coming to an addon site near you! BindScore Takes raid building to the next level with the ability to request bind info from other players using the client. Rating are based on an ability priority system that takes into account how often you should be using a spell for your particular class / spec! Not only will you have to download a client to even be considered for pugs now, they'll probably turn you down anyways for still having your back and turn buttons keybound!

BindScore!

i key bind each spell (heals) in my spell book. when i raid i make the raid wait wile i key bind each heal to each person.

25 people 7 heals = 175 key binds

that way when i want to heal player a i decide what spells i want to use then hit the keys that are bound to player a for the appropriate spells.

i have a lot of
ctrl, shift, a,b ..... etc etc....

sometimes i get mixed up as to what buttons = what player so i just mash the keys down and usually stuff happens.


i hate clickers so much that if i even think a person is a clicker i ignore them and boot them from the raid etc...

found a tank who has glory of the raider 10 and 25 man with the mounts and both his 10 and 25 man ulduar mounts. he didnt mouse turn 100% of the time and said that he even had a few abilities he clicked.

i put him on ignore and booted him from the raind and guild for being a stupid mouth breathing clicker. cuz you so know all clickers mouth breath. you can hear them over vent they all sound alike!

yeah thats right i know that tank with all hard modes done got carried through content! i mean he keyboard turned like two times and then admitted to clicking some stuff! wow what a tera bad!

i hate clicking so much that i memorized every windows code so that i dont have to use my mouse to navigate through windows. i told my boss we need to fire all the people who use a mouse as its a waste of time and slows down productivity. he was so stunned by my insight into productivity he gave me his job! (you see he uses the mouse) and i fired him for using the mouse! we are in the process of hiring the only test is that you can demonstrate your ability to use all versions of windows without touching the mouse...... oh and a masters in computer sciences and a list of 500 people who will state in a court of law that you are not a mouth breather!

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People should play how they feel most comfortable. If someone is a faster clicker and it makes sense to them, then that's fine. If someone loves making macros and keybinds, that's fine too. Neither is better than the other and many people even combine the two depending on the circumstance. It's about playing within your comfort zone. That's not to say that complacency is good. Trying new things will help broaden playstyle and make it more clear as to whether one will fit you better than another. But lambasting others for a choice in how they play is never productive or constructive.

The only way to lift other players up is to give them the chance to learn without fear of being put down for their mistakes.

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well I see where you're coming from, but on the other hand I like to put people down for their mistakes. mvp?

i used to keybind, then I realized this game is so pathetically easy, you'd have to be less intelligent than a rock to need keybinds to be good. Not all of us have the reaction speed of a sponge. You can say keybinds are faster all you want, but those of us who dont have downs dont need to rely on such a crutch.