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  • 0. Patch 3.3 and warlock dps   10/13/2009 03:01:54 PM PDT
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How will warlocks be compensated for icecrown. It's already impossible to compete in dps with an arcane mage. Yet mage and lock dps is suppose to be on par and depend on skill.

The patch changes Conflagrate now deals damage equal to 60% of your Immolate or Shadowflame and causes 20% additional damage over 6 sec.

I was told this was another 8% nerf to pve destro damage ontop of the 5% from last patch. This is getting ridiculous.

With the next patch please give warlocks something to ensure thier pve dps in 3.3, I really do not want to miss out on icecrown as mages missed out on sunwell. After all I and most people bought this expansion to down Arthas after all.
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  • 1. Re: Patch 3.3 and warlock dps   10/13/2009 03:28:54 PM PDT
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After all I and most people bought this expansion to down Arthas after all.

Locks are fine.

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  • 2. Re: Patch 3.3 and warlock dps   10/13/2009 03:32:39 PM PDT
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Locks are fine.


Irrefutable argument right there.
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  • 3. Re: Patch 3.3 and warlock dps   10/13/2009 03:35:21 PM PDT
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But nerfing a low competiting DPS spec is the cool thing nowadays.

Patch isn't over yet, but if it does come and we're ridiculously low there will be a flood of QQ.


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  • 4. Re: Patch 3.3 and warlock dps   10/13/2009 03:40:50 PM PDT
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I for one welcome our new affliction overlords.

R. I. P. Destro, we had a great time.

Lol Demo is still Lol Demo
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  • 5. Re: Patch 3.3 and warlock dps   10/13/2009 03:43:38 PM PDT
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I for one welcome our new affliction overlords.

R. I. P. Destro, we had a great time.

Lol Demo is still Lol Demo


Affliction will still suck more than demo, and destro.

Nerfing a bad spec to make a worse spec seem better still means that both are bad.


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  • 6. Re: Patch 3.3 and warlock dps   10/13/2009 03:44:33 PM PDT
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3.3 is far from finished. There are plenty of changes coming that we haven't seen yet. This thread is quite premature.

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  • 7. Re: Patch 3.3 and warlock dps   10/13/2009 03:47:04 PM PDT
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Isn't that the same as it is now, just less burst? Current is 80%, this being 60% + 20%. Only problem with it might be if the dot can't crit.
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  • 8. Re: Patch 3.3 and warlock dps   10/13/2009 03:47:08 PM PDT
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Affliction will still suck more than demo, and destro.

Nerfing a bad spec to make a worse spec seem better still means that both are bad.


If the haste scalling for dots goes live which it will, then no it won't.

Also, i'm fearing blizzard wants the dreadful 41/30 build to be viable again, pfft.

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  • 9. Re: Patch 3.3 and warlock dps   10/13/2009 04:03:48 PM PDT
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Locks are fine.


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  • 10. Re: Patch 3.3 and warlock dps   10/13/2009 04:09:47 PM PDT
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3.3 is far from finished. There are plenty of changes coming that we haven't seen yet. This thread is quite premature.


This, especially coupled with the promised 100% pet scaling (except for arp loldks lolhunters )

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  • 11. Re: Patch 3.3 and warlock dps   10/13/2009 04:17:14 PM PDT
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This, especially coupled with the promised 100% pet scaling (except for arp loldks lolhunters )



Are they going to add that in 3.3?
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  • 12. Re: Patch 3.3 and warlock dps   10/13/2009 04:20:43 PM PDT
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Isn't that the same as it is now, just less burst? Current is 80%, this being 60% + 20%. Only problem with it might be if the dot can't crit.


Destruction is already starting to fall behind.

edit- don't mind being behind mages. Sunwell was completely doable with 3 mages. They can be above us this time :)

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  • 13. Re: Patch 3.3 and warlock dps   10/13/2009 04:38:44 PM PDT
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If the haste scalling for dots goes live which it will, then no it won't.

Also, i'm fearing blizzard wants the dreadful 41/30 build to be viable again, pfft.


The more viable builds available the better. Variety is good, and just cause you dont like 0/41/30 doesnt mean others dont. Their opinions are just as valid as yours. How does that build being viable in anyway affect you? Dont like it, dont spec it.

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  • 14. Re: Patch 3.3 and warlock dps   10/13/2009 04:42:59 PM PDT
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I'm pretty upset about these nerfs. We're already struggling behind some hybrids even.

I really hope they compensate us somehow in PvE DPS, because I'm going to be furious if we're not competitive with other pures and slightly above hybrids.
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  • 15. Re: Patch 3.3 and warlock dps   10/13/2009 05:24:33 PM PDT
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looks like warlocks wont get to see icecrown with all these nerfs
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  • 16. Re: Patch 3.3 and warlock dps   10/13/2009 05:32:40 PM PDT
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The dot on conflag to nerf the burst is a good idea,

now return the 5% to fire and brimstone and fix the conflag dot to scale off of the conflag crits so we can scale alongside mages hunters and rogues please.

Why you would go and nerf PvE just because your nerfing PvP when it was completely unavoidable is beyond me.
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  • 17. Re: Patch 3.3 and warlock dps   10/13/2009 06:01:53 PM PDT
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At least a dozen of the posts here are variants of "Don't nerf me bro."

What we're looking for in these forums right now is intelligent feedback that we can use. This isn't it.


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I was told this was another 8% nerf to pve destro damage ontop of the 5% from last patch. This is getting ridiculous.


There is nothing wrong with the topic, but you need to offer something more than just links to third-party websites or the equivalent of "Cousin Jimmy told me our dps was low." If you aren't a theorycrafter, that's fine, but I suggest then sitting back until the players that are into it have had a little bit of time to chew on all of the new numbers (for all the classes) in 3.3.

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