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Achievements
A few extra achievements have been added for the cross-server LFG system.

* Looking for More - Use the Dungeon tool to finish random heroic dungeons until you have grouped with 10 random players total.
* Looking for Many - Use the Dungeon tool to finish random heroic dungeons until you have grouped with 50 random players total. Title Reward - the Patient.
* Looking for Multitudes - Use the Dungeon tool to finish random heroic dungeons until you have grouped with 100 random players total.

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Hey here's an idea, why don't you take the development resources you put into creating achievements for LFG and just make the LFG interface not suck? When you give out titles and achievements for using the damned system, you are admitting 100% that it's bad, and that it's literally an accomplishment to get anything done with it. This is the silliest design philosophy I've ever heard of.

The LFG tool is handy and has worked great for me.

Can it be better? Sure. People like you who don't post solutions to a problem aren't helping their developers think of creative ideas though.

Um, they are working on the LFG tool in 3.3. Cross-server grouping. That is what the achievements are about.

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The LFG tool is handy and has worked great for me.

Can it be better? Sure. People like you who don't post solutions to a problem aren't helping their developers think of creative ideas though.

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WTB the ability to view groups and individuals at the same time again.

It makes it so much more difficult to poach people from your pug, and I miss out on groups for instances I'm a little less interested in (but still willing to do) unless I cycle through the damn thing twice. Everytime I want to check to see if anyone new has been added, I have to cycle through twice too.

It's so very tedious.

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The LFG tool is handy and has worked great for me.

Can it be better? Sure. People like you who don't post solutions to a problem aren't helping their developers think of creative ideas though.

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As soon as you post a solution the mods move you to the graveyard, which is the suggestion forums.

The fact is though, they could streamline the hell out of the interface by using filters instead of mandatory toggles. Let you see every group and every person looking for group by default, THEN filter down to see less if you chose.

The interface works fine, the issue is one of PEBKAC not software. Blizz can't cure stupid. This will help during non peak hours and is avoidable if you are not interested. It provides benifits without cost, whats your beef?

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Um, they are working on the LFG tool in 3.3. Cross-server grouping. That is what the achievements are about.

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And cross server grouping probably wouldn't be necessary in the first place if they'd just make the existing interface better.

They.... are working on the interface

The whole point of the achievements, which probably took a whole 5 minutes to make not really wasting any time, is to use the new interface

The real problem with lfg is the lack of people using it. That said I've been able to find a couple of groups a day for my alts while I'm leveling them.

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The real problem with lfg is the lack of people using it. That said I've been able to find a couple of groups a day for my alts while I'm leveling them.

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Rather circular, since the reason people don't use it is because it's bad.

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The interface works fine, the issue is one of PEBKAC not software. Blizz can't cure stupid. This will help during non peak hours and is avoidable if you are not interested. It provides benifits without cost, whats your beef?

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If you mean the functionality provided by the interface, yes it does work. Meaning you can look for who is in the queue to run heroic VH and/or normal CoS, you can see tank, healer, dps... true, that works.


The problem is that most folks start out their day not looking for any one dungeon in particular. So when I want to chain through heroics, I can't just use the interface to say "I'm a tank, LFG heroics". I have to pick 3 at random and hope someone else is running that, or more frequently what I do is just pick one to get me in the LFG channel, and type it out myself.

And when the community resorts to manual conversation like that rather than using the interface, it means the interface is too limited to serve the needs of the community.

Works fine for me. Whenever I do the heroic daily, I join LFG and put together a group. If there are no tanks, I start looking in Trade. Once I get a tank, I grab 3 dps from the LFG and we're off.

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The LFG tool is handy and has worked great for me.

Can it be better? Sure. People like you who don't post solutions to a problem aren't helping their developers think of creative ideas though.

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There have been some AMAZING posts in the suggestion.... i mean /dev/null forum that have been totally ignored by Blizzard.

One guy posted a whole interface with multiple screenshots that just put the current system to total SHAME. That was a long time ago.

No, cross server lfg will not solve anything. Because aside from the rare exception, servers are going to be populated in about the same way, so while you are multiplying the supply of say healers by a certain number, you are also increasing the demand by the same amount.

However, pug problems, be it some "shortage" or no one in LFG, is not blizzard's fault. Its because when you pug, you run into people who are somehow unable to press buttons in the right sequence.

So basically, no this isn't a "solution" people wanted it and so they figured out how to do it.

edit: what im trying to get across, is stop looking for stuff to complain about, and if you're a troll i bit

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If you mean the functionality provided by the interface, yes it does work. Meaning you can look for who is in the queue to run heroic VH and/or normal CoS, you can see tank, healer, dps... true, that works.


The problem is that most folks start out their day not looking for any one dungeon in particular. So when I want to chain through heroics, I can't just use the interface to say "I'm a tank, LFG heroics". I have to pick 3 at random and hope someone else is running that, or more frequently what I do is just pick one to get me in the LFG channel, and type it out myself.

And when the community resorts to manual conversation like that rather than using the interface, it means the interface is too limited to serve the needs of the community.

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I will admit that a thuroghly unfiltered take would be a nice option to have, but I must disagree with your inital assertion. I find that usually I am looking for a specific instance, be it becuase its the daily or because back in the day I actually wanted a peice of gear from there. For me the interface works just as I wish it would, with those interested in running the same instance I am displayed and a global channel to cast a wider net.

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The problem is that most folks start out their day not looking for any one dungeon in particular. So when I want to chain through heroics, I can't just use the interface to say "I'm a tank, LFG heroics". I have to pick 3 at random and hope someone else is running that, or more frequently what I do is just pick one to get me in the LFG channel, and type it out myself.

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See, that doesn't seem like a bad idea. It would be nice if you could list all heroics and check/uncheck the one's your already locked to (even better if the system can gray-out those ones automatically), and you're genuinely in a "LF Any Heroic" position.

+ Holiday Bosses

+ Old Dungeons. Would be nice, at 80, to be able to LFG Karazhan for nostalgia purposes.


Red Text: The more comprehensive and configurable this tool is, the less LFG spam will happen in trade. LFG spam is rampant in trade not because people are lazy, but because the LFG tool as it stands is bad.

Wait am I misunderstanding everything? They are already implementing cross-server instancing with Patch 3.3 ?

I figured this thing wouldn't hit until Cata...