The wording of the scourge strike change is a little confusing. Perhaps we can get a little clarification from someone on the PTR or a developer about how it works now?

Does the shadow portion of the ability proc like a paladin seal now? Is ebon plague still going to be counted as a 3rd disease?

Will the shadow damage be based from the actual physical damage you deal or you listed swing damage? So if I hit a warrior for 1000 my shadow damage will hit him for 750 with 3 diseases but if I hit a warlock for 2000 my shadow damage will be 1500?

Its slightly confusing, any feedback would help.

its all based off of physical now so your scenario is right (although it would do more shadow damage due to ebon plauge inscreasing magic damage)

I'd assume it works much like Necrosis.

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its all based off of physical now so your scenario is right (although it would do more shadow damage due to ebon plauge inscreasing magic damage)

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This new mechanic seems very punishing to casters... As if DKs needed it. It should honestly be the other way around, casters have enough counter's as it is.

From my understanding of the tooltip, I think it works like this:

You smack the baddie for 3000 damage (why, cause 3k is a cool number)

This 3000 is applied first.

Swiftly after that, assuming you have 3 diseases up (which you should in a pve setting, dont pvp that much ^^;) Another 2250 pops up in cool purplish black numbers. Since its technically magic damage it would be increased by Ebon Plague and the like.


Also I think it would act like necrosis in the fact that if the first 1 part connects, so does the second.

Has anyone actually tried it on the PTR? Theres lots of speculation here but real clarification would be awesome.

Is it intended to nuke casters harder than plate?

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Swiftly after that, assuming you have 3 diseases up (which you should in a pve setting, dont pvp that much ^^;) Another 2250 pops up in cool purplish black numbers. Since its technically magic damage it would be increased by Ebon Plague and the like.

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This is where many (Communism above, myself, others) would disagree with you. The italicized part.

If it does double dip in that sense (technically it's not double dipping, since the first part wouldn't have benefited from Ebon Plague, but if the second part did benefit from Ebon Plague, it would also have to benefit from more generic damage modifiers - such as Feroicious Inspiration - which means it would double dip in general), then it doesn't work like Necrosis. Then it doesn't work like Unholy Blight. Then it becomes disproportionally strong, and would probably be too powerful. Necrosis used to double dip. It made it too strong, and caused issues on gimmick fights.

Hence why most assume it works like the current Necrosis and won't double dip (and, thus, won't benefit from Ebon Plague and the like).

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Is it intended to nuke casters harder than plate?

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Yes. All physical abilities are intended to hit casters harder than plate.

Otherwise, what's the point of armor?

Silly statement is silly =p.

Scourge Strike: Redesigned. The base ability now deals 50% weapon damage plus an additional amount as physical damage. However, for each disease the death knight has on the target, the target will take additional shadow damage equal to 25% of the physical damage done.

so... all of a sudden armor pen is important to dk? this is a wierd change right in the middle of a pvp season... i'm really confused right now.

It looks bugged on the PTR. It's just doing the physical damage and hitting very weak.

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so... all of a sudden armor pen is important to dk? this is a wierd change right in the middle of a pvp season... i'm really confused right now.

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You talk as if this was a hotfix or as if the patch is tomorrow. 3.3.0 will likely coincide with the new arena season, or not be far behind. Any which way, the patch is definitely some time off in the future.

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It should work pretty similarly to how it does now except that some of the damage is physical. That allows Unholy DKs to benefit more from armor pen. It also allowed us to increase the damage of the ability since it is no longer penalized for cutting through all armor.

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That equates to another pvp nerf, however.

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The damage... it's also partly physical.

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Fixed.

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So it's basically plague strike with a super necrosis tacked on now.. right?

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You could say that about a lot of abilities... I think you're focusing on the wrong thing.

SS will hit mages, locks, and priests harder. Good in my book.

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SS will hit mages, locks, and priests harder. Good in my book.

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Cuz we need more dominance over casters.

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It should work pretty similarly to how it does now except that some of the damage is physical. That allows Unholy DKs to benefit more from armor pen. It also allowed us to increase the damage of the ability since it is no longer penalized for cutting through all armor.

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So it's 50% weapon damage as physical + 37.5% of weapon damage as shadow? Because the description makes it sound like Necrosis where it suffers from armor just like physical damage and then takes the extra hit of partial resists.