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  • 40. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 05:38:18 PM PDT
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LOL @ op's 3s name, "PMR is for fgts"

PMR's sorry about your pony dude, but it was an accident, I swear!
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  • Khadgar
  • 41. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 05:38:41 PM PDT
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Cuz I didnt get 80 halfway through season 6. Keep telling yourself frost is underpowered and thats why you cant get out of the 1500 bracket.


You might have a point there if I played a mage.
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  • Boulderfist
  • 42. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 05:39:02 PM PDT
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Did you just slap your keyboard and call it a sentence?

well i play and reply on the forums at the same time so it kinda hard to make it perfect also why the hell would i try to make my grammar perfect for people on the wow DD forums lik srsly

edit also the ptr crashed and came back up tooltips on spells were buged i guess with the proc and icyveins up my FB cast was .983

whats keybord turning ?
ooooh..
I always thought people meant literally rotating the keyboard 90 degrees to gain some sort of obscure advantage.
lol
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  • Mok'Nathal
  • 43. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 05:42:19 PM PDT
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Root, deep freeze, FB/IL, that's soooooooo hard guise.
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  • Lightbringer
  • 44. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 09:51:07 PM PDT
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Root, deep freeze, FB/IL, that's soooooooo hard guise.


I do wish it was that simple :(

I are suck at this game.
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  • 45. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 09:57:18 PM PDT
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So after a mage gets a shatter combo off hes going to have a 1.1 second frostbolt?

What
The
Hell
???

Are PMR's supposed have 100% representation in 3v3 or something?


Actually, if I pop IV and my haste trinkets, and Frozen core procs, this would make my Next Frost Bolt 0.4 second cast...


bwhahahahaha

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  • Lightbringer
  • 46. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 10:03:11 PM PDT
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Actually, if I pop IV and my haste trinkets, and Frozen core procs, this would make my Next Frost Bolt 0.4 second cast...


bwhahahahaha


Nevermind the fact that your GCD is still >1 second, making this kind of pointless. Honestly, I'm fairly OK with Frost Mage damage right now. The only thing that I'd LIKE is more mobile damage. This is kind of cool because it does help that, but I don't like that it's RNG.

I are suck at this game.
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  • 47. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 10:03:24 PM PDT
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Where am I getting the points to spec into this?


Probably by dropping frostbite. Since DR was linked with shattered barrier it's not nearly as useful as it once was.
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  • Lightbringer
  • 48. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 10:07:28 PM PDT
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Probably by dropping frostbite. Since DR was linked with shattered barrier it's not nearly as useful as it once was.


Yeah. I've been thinking about dropping it... But it's SOOO nice in duels. :-P

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  • Mal'Ganis
  • 49. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 10:13:20 PM PDT
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You're probably going to see some pretty epic nerfs to RMP in the form of new shared DRs to account for the buffs to mages.

Wizard cleave should remain viable, though.
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  • Greymane
  • 50. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 10:16:13 PM PDT
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You're probably going to see some pretty epic nerfs to RMP in the form of new shared DRs to account for the buffs to mages.




Dont count on it. Mages for some reason are shooting into the stratosphere.

Fire was great PvE dps, and then here comes Arcane being made even better recently. Its amazing in fact and drop dead easy to play.

Then the go here and tend to Frost Mage PvP a little and even add some variety in there with the permanent pet.

Crazy attention they are getting right now.
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  • 51. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 10:18:43 PM PDT
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You're probably going to see some pretty epic nerfs to RMP in the form of new shared DRs to account for the buffs to mages.




I agree

I don't think it will be in burst however, one of the reasons why RMP was allowed to permit was because of the lack of damage and the excessive amount of CC. Now that mages have burst, we'll probably see frost mages break away from their rogue and priest teams.

Though I am curious how blizz hopes to correct this so that RMP aren't OP when 3.3 comes out. I believe it's going to be through CC.

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  • Lightbringer
  • 52. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 10:19:16 PM PDT
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Dont count on it. Mages for some reason are shooting into the stratosphere.

Fire was great PvE dps, and then here comes Arcane being made even better recently. Its amazing in fact and drop dead easy to play.

Then the go here and tend to Frost Mage PvP a little and even add some variety in there with the permanent pet.

Crazy attention they are getting right now.


Well, I have to admit I am surprised by the amount of Mage attention in the Patch Notes as of late. I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at with the permanent pet--it sounds like you're talking about it from a PVP standpoint, which.... well... no PVP mage will use that glyph.


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I agree

I don't think it will be in burst however, one of the reasons why RMP was allowed to permit was because of the lack of damage and the excessive amount of CC. Now that mages have burst, we'll probably see frost mages break away from their rogue and priest teams.

Though I am curious how blizz hopes to correct this so that RMP aren't OP when 3.3 comes out. I believe it's going to be through CC.


The likelihood that a Mage will be able to setup that little bit of added burst perfectly in sync with when his team needs it is quite a stretch of the imagination. I'll say it again, this is a very minor PVP change. It's really more of a mobile DPS buff than anything. Now when I'm kiting Beast Cleave teams around, I can spam Ice Lance inbetween Cone of Colds, Novas and Fire Blasts, hoping for a 1 second Frostbolt to throw in on the DPS target.

The QQ is getting old fast. I'd wish you guys would actually QQ about something us, the Mage community, is excited about. The amount of attention this talent change has received is rather mind blowing. You know what's really more OP than this change? The Nameplate changes!! I'll actually be able to target like an intelligent human being.

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  • 53. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 10:22:45 PM PDT
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It was a PVE change, a long time ago they stated they wanted 3 tree's viable for pve/pvp...did you never think they would start to move in this direction??


I dont know if it would be enough to make frost viable in PVE, but it's moving closer.
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  • 54. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 10:23:43 PM PDT
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Dont count on it. Mages for some reason are shooting into the stratosphere.

Fire was great PvE dps, and then here comes Arcane being made even better recently. Its amazing in fact and drop dead easy to play.


But I thought mages were getting Sunwelled again. That's what the forums said. :)

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  • 55. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 10:24:41 PM PDT
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But I thought mages were getting Sunwelled again. That's what the forums said. :)
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  • 56. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 10:24:44 PM PDT
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But I thought mages were getting Sunwelled again. That's what the forums said. :)



No no, they were commenting on our JAW DROPPING DAMAGE

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  • Arena Tournament 2
  • 57. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 10:25:06 PM PDT
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But I thought mages were getting Sunwelled again. That's what the forums said. :)


All three mage trees are looking to be viable in 3.3, warlocks are getting near there as well.. Keep it up and finish off the other two classes! ^.^

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  • The Venture Co
  • 58. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 10:26:11 PM PDT
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But I thought mages were getting Sunwelled again. That's what the forums said. :)

/punch

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  • Caelestrasz
  • 59. Re: [Frozen Core] - Really? REALLY??   10/13/2009 10:26:34 PM PDT
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Sorry, but i appear to have missed the documentation of this change. Looking at the PTR Notes atm @ http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html and i can't find a change to frozen core. Someone care to enlighten me?
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