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  • 80. Re: Why Garrosh?   10/01/2009 02:56:28 PM PDT
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Wait...

To me... this is like saying there is stuff between here and there they have not talked about... Hmm...

Pointing out assumptions is almost the same thing as validating them; or at least validating their concern...

Makes me think we will get 3.3(ice Crown - no Arthus but 5 man) .... 4.0(Cat) .... 4.1(Arthus gets whats coming to him)


I'm sticking to this then just based on what i have seen you say Senior Blue. Then again, i could be wrong, lol. Prob am too....

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  • 82. Re: Why Garrosh?   10/01/2009 02:59:00 PM PDT
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Garrosh is a character with a lot to prove. I realize there's a great deal of consternation out there concerning the tales of what's to come, but I want to reassure you that we understand that concern. We know where you're coming from.

Why are we still going this route? With all respect, you haven't seen the entirety of who Garrosh is. You've seen a great deal of his faults, certainly, but people grow over time, and you may find, come Cataclysm, that he is not quite the disaster you portend. :)

(Mind you, that doesn't mean he's Thrall, either.)

Oh wow. Hahahahahahaha.

Yes you're right, Kis, we haven't seen the entirety of what the "Stupid Male with too much testosterone and no tact" Archetype has to offer, and unfortunately because you're the very first storyline ever to utilize this archetype I am totally left in the dark as to what his character is going to do!

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  • 83. Re: Why Garrosh?   10/01/2009 03:00:37 PM PDT
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There's another valid question, of when the Cat first starts showing up, and when it's fully out in the open.

I've already seen speculation that the Cat will start soon, as in showing up in zones, with bulges or maybe

signs of the lava, or whatever is going to mark the zone changes.

So we shall see.

And the video is a little confusing at first, though it's possible the start may come soon, while the actual

time of the Cataclysm could be just after Arthas is taken out.
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  • 84. Re: Why Garrosh?   10/01/2009 03:03:01 PM PDT
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I am seeing a lot of confusion regarding timeline, and I think it stems from the trailer starting thusly:

"As the terrible war against the Lich King continues, the proud defenders of Azeroth fight to secure a lasting peace... but there can be no peace when the world itself is devoured by rage..."

Am I correct?




Very correct. The trailer makes it sound like the Cataclysm happens before we fight Arthas.
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  • 85. Re: Why Garrosh?   10/01/2009 03:05:32 PM PDT
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I'm not going to tell you the story of how things come to be, I'm afraid. You're going to have to wait for them to happen. :)


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  • 86. Re: Why Garrosh?   10/01/2009 03:27:09 PM PDT
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Since the blues are watching, is there any further clarification which you wish to make at this time? Or

shall we assume this is one of those, "Noted, we'll address this later" sorts of things?
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  • 87. Re: Why Garrosh?   10/01/2009 03:30:06 PM PDT
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Since the blues are watching, is there any further clarification which you wish to make at this time? Or

shall we assume this is one of those, "Noted, we'll address this later" sorts of things?


Yeah, would you like to clarify whether you really intend to splinter the Horde with racism?
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  • 88. Re: Why Garrosh?   10/01/2009 03:37:51 PM PDT
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I'm not going to tell you the story of how things come to be, I'm afraid. You're going to have to wait for them to happen. :)


While I appreciate your teasing (even more so than I would appreciate you saying "oh yeah btw Thrall gets exiled", at a point we have to stop and wonder why exactly you tease us for fairly simple answers: Why does Thrall step down?

I thought about it, and noticed that Thrall isn't even mentioned in ANY of the officially released Cataclysm information... I eventually came to the conclusion that Thrall will likely DIE in the events at Icecrown. Garrosh seeing Thrall die would certainly be life-changing for the Orc, considering it is Thrall who made him see the truth of his heritage and even guided him through Northrend.

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  • 89. Re: Why Garrosh?   10/01/2009 03:42:48 PM PDT
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Yeah, would you like to clarify whether you really intend to splinter the Horde with racism?


One thing I should mention right off the bat: there are no current plans to exclude players from Orgrimmar by any criteria to my knowledge.

As for the rest of what's been floating around, I will say that there is reason behind every choice. As I said earlier, I'm not going to explain the story before it happens, but I will emphasize that there is a story, and these aren't aribtrary decisions.

EDIT: Nazgûl, have you read any reviews of the Goblin starting area we showed at Blizzcon, by chance? :)

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/features/lore.html

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  • 90. Re: Why Garrosh?   10/01/2009 03:43:58 PM PDT
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Interesting theory. I hadn't thought of that, there's a few people that could die in Icecrown, the list is highly

debatable, since most of the people we know that live is so far only what, one, maybe two? Sylvanus and

Varian?
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  • 91. Re: Why Garrosh?   10/01/2009 03:45:22 PM PDT
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EDIT: Nazgûl, have you read any reviews of the Goblin starting area we showed at Blizzcon, by chance? :)

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/features/lore.html


Ah, damn, missed that. As for the lore page, it's a summary of his CURRENT situation... not necessarily his future situation.

Well there goes my cinematic imagination...

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  • 93. Re: Why Garrosh?   10/01/2009 03:48:03 PM PDT
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One thing I should mention right off the bat: there are no current plans to exclude players from Orgrimmar by any criteria to my knowledge.

As for the rest of what's been floating around, I will say that there is reason behind every choice. As I said earlier, I'm not going to explain the story before it happens, but I will emphasize that there is a story, and these aren't aribtrary decisions.

EDIT: Nazgûl, have you read any reviews of the Goblin starting area we showed at Blizzcon, by chance? :)

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/features/lore.html


I haven't seen any reviews, could you link us to some?

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  • 94. Re: Why Garrosh?   10/01/2009 03:49:54 PM PDT
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Ah, damn, missed that. As for the lore page, it's a summary of his CURRENT situation... not necessarily his future situation.


The description is, yes, but the header states "Below is a list of some of the most important non-player characters in World of Warcraft: Cataclysm."

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  • 95. Re: Why Garrosh?   10/01/2009 03:50:56 PM PDT
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The description is, yes, but the header states "Below is a list of some of the most important non-player characters in World of Warcraft: Cataclysm."


Must you destroy my dreams? :P

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  • 96. Re: Why Garrosh?   10/01/2009 03:52:35 PM PDT
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There is also the fact that we're looking at things from a chronological standpoint being to us now, and for

the expansion in the future. As we close in, it will remain to be seen what happens, clearly.
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  • 97. Re: Why Garrosh?   10/01/2009 03:54:27 PM PDT
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One thing I should mention right off the bat: there are no current plans to exclude players from Orgrimmar by any criteria to my knowledge.

As for the rest of what's been floating around, I will say that there is reason behind every choice. As I said earlier, I'm not going to explain the story before it happens, but I will emphasize that there is a story, and these aren't aribtrary decisions.




Well that's what I'm worried about, that there is a story and that story is to drum up prejudices between the Horde races weakening their unity.

Couple that with potentially marginalizing/"ruining" Thrall it's hard to be patient as these are my two favorite things(the Horde and Thrall).
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  • 98. Re: Why Garrosh?   10/01/2009 03:55:45 PM PDT
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The description is, yes, but the header states "Below is a list of some of the most important non-player characters in World of Warcraft: Cataclysm."


Does that mean we'll probably be seeing a lot of Genn as well then?

*Crosses fingers*

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  • 99. Re: Why Garrosh?   10/01/2009 03:57:47 PM PDT
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Garrosh is a character with a lot to prove. I realize there's a great deal of consternation out there concerning the tales of what's to come, but I want to reassure you that we understand that concern. We know where you're coming from.

Why are we still going this route? With all respect, you haven't seen the entirety of who Garrosh is. You've seen a great deal of his faults, certainly, but people grow over time, and you may find, come Cataclysm, that he is not quite the disaster you portend. :)

(Mind you, that doesn't mean he's Thrall, either.)


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