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Crushridge

0. Killing off arthas,killing a part of the lore 10/05/2009 04:48:39 PM PDT

With the new Icecrown instance featuring the lich king (Arthas) and scourge commanders would killing them kill the whole scourge lore? because in warcraft 3 the whole lore was base around the undead scourge and they already killed off kel'thuzad....Twice! and if arthas dies who will be the new lich king or will the scourge die off once and for all?

but the main question is. Will killing arthas kill of a part of the lore warcraft has?

Freph

Skywall

1. Re: Killing off arthas,killing a part of the 10/05/2009 04:56:36 PM PDT

welcome to MMOs. we tend to evolve. people get mad because of it. people also get mad when we don't. find that machine that makes everyone happy, and die rich.

Gardukk

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Mal'Ganis

2. Re: Killing off arthas,killing a part of the 10/05/2009 05:03:36 PM PDT

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because in warcraft 3 the whole lore was base around the undead scourge

This isn't Warcraft 3.

ITT people nerd-rage because the story has developed a conflict that boils down to more than just "OH NO AN ANCIENT EVIL HAS AWAKENED WE NEED TO THROW RAID GROUPS AT IT UNTIL IT GOES AWAY."

Bolvar

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Burning Blade

3. Re: Killing off arthas,killing a part of the 10/05/2009 05:05:31 PM PDT

There will be no more scourge.

What did you want him to live for ever?

We still got Azshara,Deathwing,and Sargeras to deal with.

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Shallen

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Deathwing

4. Re: Killing off arthas,killing a part of the 10/05/2009 05:07:06 PM PDT

Universe lore =/= how the game plays.

Lorewise, Illidan is dead. Onyxia is dead. VanCleef is dead. Kael'thas is dead, twice. Yet we get quests to kill them, and can kill them over and over and over again.

Surely if you ever played in the t2 hayday (I didn't) Ony heads would be hanging from the rafter pretty much constantly, with many yells of 'The broodmother is dead!'.

There are very few major NPCs (and even many minor ones) who once killed, are still 'there'. Foredragon, baby Saurfang and Varithamas are the only ones that spring to mind as staying dead.

If there HAS to ALWAYS be a Scourge, someone at Blizz will make something up. But as far as I know, if Ner'Zhul is destroyed (I'm assuming he has some sort of possession over Arthas, even if it can't be broken), the undead Scourge will either be destroyed in a chain reaction, or will become mindless undead.

But as far as I know, unless Cataclysm destroys large swathes of Northrend, it won't change much after ICC is cleared.

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Daeena

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5. Re: Killing off arthas,killing a part of the 10/05/2009 05:07:30 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
With the new Icecrown instance featuring the lich king (Arthas) and scourge commanders would killing them kill the whole scourge lore? because in warcraft 3 the whole lore was base around the undead scourge and they already killed off kel'thuzad....Twice! and if arthas dies who will be the new lich king or will the scourge die off once and for all?

but the main question is. Will killing arthas kill of a part of the lore warcraft has?

I guess Illidan, Kael'thas, Malygos, Vashj, Yogg-saron, C'thun, etc. didn't matter or what?

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Skywall

6. Re: Killing off arthas,killing a part of the 10/05/2009 05:07:59 PM PDT

You'll tend to notice that major characters that are brought forth in a Warcraft game tend to die in the next game. Not always, but most of the time.

Lothar is introduced in 1, dies in 2.
Uther and Grom are introduced in 2, die in 3.

It just so happens that World was the next in the series...

Djordji

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Chromaggus

7. Re: Killing off arthas,killing a part of the 10/05/2009 05:08:00 PM PDT

Killing Arthas would be merely a setback.

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Igotdotz

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Chromaggus

8. Re: Killing off arthas,killing a part of the 10/05/2009 05:08:26 PM PDT

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There will be no more scourge.

What did you want him to live for ever?

We still got Azshara,Deathwing,and Sargeras to deal with.

Exactly, I don't see why people can't get a grip on the fact that the story changes as we play it. The whole point of this expansion is fighting Arthas and putting a stop to the Undead Scourge. When he kill him that's it story wise sorry he's dead, so is Illidian and Kael'Thas.

Bolvar

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Burning Blade

9. Re: Killing off arthas,killing a part of the 10/05/2009 05:10:51 PM PDT

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Exactly, I don't see why people can't get a grip on the fact that the story changes as we play it. The whole point of this expansion is fighting Arthas and putting a stop to the Undead Scourge. When he kill him that's it story wise sorry he's dead, so is Illidian and Kael'Thas.

I agree with you and I know Illidan had to go but I was disappointed with what they did to Kael.

they played the "he's gone insane card" and I thought he deserved a lot better than that.

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Daeena

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Shadow Council

11. Re: Killing off arthas,killing a part of the 10/05/2009 05:13:12 PM PDT

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I agree with you and I know Illidan had to go but I was disappointed with what they did to Kael.

they played the "he's gone insane card" and I thought he deserved a lot better than that.

He did. ANd IMHO so did Malygos.

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Burning Blade

12. Re: Killing off arthas,killing a part of the 10/05/2009 05:13:52 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
according to lore there are practicly no blood elfs left, and yet they have become the most populated race in the game.

According to the lore the majority of races are disgustingly overpopulated in-game.

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Soeroah

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Caelestrasz

13. Re: Killing off arthas,killing a part of the 10/05/2009 05:18:18 PM PDT

In Warcraft 3, Arthas killed Terenas. Terenas was a major part of forming the human Alliance during the first war with the Orcs. Did Arthas kill the lore?

How about when Lothar killed Doomhammer?

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Blackrock

14. Re: Killing off arthas,killing a part of the 10/05/2009 05:23:56 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
according to lore there are practicly no blood elfs left, and yet they have become the most populated race in the game.

Likewise, Night Elves. I think Darkspear Trolls are the only race where the lore representation gels with the in-game representation. (A rare race that is actually... dare I say it... rare.)

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15. Re: Killing off arthas,killing a part of the 10/05/2009 05:29:16 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
With the new Icecrown instance featuring the lich king (Arthas) and scourge commanders would killing them kill the whole scourge lore? because in warcraft 3 the whole lore was base around the undead scourge and they already killed off kel'thuzad....Twice! and if arthas dies who will be the new lich king or will the scourge die off once and for all?

but the main question is. Will killing arthas kill of a part of the lore warcraft has?

Are you asking if it will negatively affects the overall lore? I mean, killing any character is kind of killing lore as characters are lore, right?

Just keep in mind that Arthas wasn't involved in Warcraft until the third installment, it's a big universe with a lot of things going on, for every story that ends another (or more) begins.

Kelpsacovic

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Zul'jin

16. Re: Killing off arthas,killing a part of the 10/05/2009 05:32:35 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
In Warcraft 3, Arthas killed Terenas. Terenas was a major part of forming the human Alliance during the first war with the Orcs. Did Arthas kill the lore?

How about when Lothar killed Doomhammer?

Here's a good point. People dying is part of lore.

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Echo Isles

17. Re: Killing off arthas,killing a part of the 10/05/2009 05:34:58 PM PDT

Stop killing the Lore you silly PVE'rs!!!

Sveera

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Uther

18. Re: Killing off arthas,killing a part of the 10/05/2009 05:35:18 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
How about when Lothar killed Doomhammer?

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Kil'jaeden

19. Re: Killing off arthas,killing a part of the 10/05/2009 05:39:46 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
How about when Lothar killed Doomhammer?

Umm, it was the other way around.

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