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  • 120. Re: I don't see why you all hate Ghostcrawler   09/25/2009 03:08:21 PM PDT
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Most of the disagreement I have with him is he will claim things without proof, despite proof being offered by his paying customers.

I've got to believe that they have raid logs and analytics coming out of their behinds to analyze PvE effectiveness left and right. They haven't shown any ability to actually look at or interpret the performance curves, though.

He does do a much better job than Kalgan or Tigole at communicating on the forums. On the other hand, that's not really saying much at all - Kalgan and Tigole were quite possibly the worst representatives an organization like Blizzard could have had. GC is "average." If he really wanted your respect (and why he doesn't believe that's tied to streams of $15/month is beyond me) he'd hire someone for the purposes of communicating with the forums.
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  • 121. Re: I don't see why you all hate Ghostcrawler   09/25/2009 03:25:27 PM PDT
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He does do a much better job than Kalgan or Tigole at communicating on the forums. On the other hand, that's not really saying much at all - Kalgan and Tigole were quite possibly the worst representatives an organization like Blizzard could have had. GC is "average." If he really wanted your respect (and why he doesn't believe that's tied to streams of $15/month is beyond me) he'd hire someone for the purposes of communicating with the forums.


Kalgan was starting to become an active entity on forums until the whole s3 (correct me if season is wrong) "My warrior will still be rockin the arena mace" incident and everyone jumped on the "Kalganized!" bandwagon.

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  • 122. Re: I don't see why you all hate Ghostcrawler   09/25/2009 03:42:43 PM PDT
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I don't "hate" GC or anyone at blizz. I feel the same way after reading his posts as I do after listening to a speech from a Politician.
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  • 124. Re: I don't see why you all hate Ghostcrawler   09/25/2009 08:26:38 PM PDT
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Not all do. The ones that do tend to be louder, more obnoxious, etc....
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  • Turalyon
  • 125. Re: I don't see why you all hate Ghostcrawler   09/25/2009 09:03:42 PM PDT
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Lol at you people thinking he's obligated to post ANYTHING you want to hear. That isn't his job. His job is to design a game. Answering your stupid questions doesn't help him design the game. If he answers your stupid question, consider it an act of courtesy, not something he has to do.


Guess what sugar plum, he is. He is obligated to his source of revenue, he is obligated to the players that he designs this game for. I really want Blizzard to come right out and state the already obvious. We allow you to play this game, if you don't like it leave. We dev the game the way we want to, and how we feel like it. This is what SoE did with EQ. They basically told their players, if you don't like how we do things find another MMO, mind you they stated this with no such announcement of WoW. When WoW hit, they left in droves. So defend them sugar plum, maybe they'll allow you to stay in their game!

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  • 126. Re: I don't see why you all hate Ghostcrawler   09/25/2009 09:13:01 PM PDT
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I mean at least he isn't the guy who designed SotA or IoC. Now that is a terrible dev.


Unfair, completely unfair and fallacious argumentation. Ghostcrawler did not become lead developer until late BC. This is when we saw the Hell that was the S4 ending. I don't know if it's completely fair to blame GC for that, it was probably in the pipes for awhile.

My point is, GC did not design WoW. He's been messing around with a game that was established long before he had this kind of control (was he around at all back then?).

If that's your logic, can I take the Lead Developer roll and get credit for everything since the inception of the game?

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  • 127. Re: I don't see why you all hate Ghostcrawler   09/26/2009 01:40:14 AM PDT
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Unfair, completely unfair and fallacious argumentation.


My arguement is that the dev who made IoC and SotA a reality is worse than Ghostcrawler.

So he ruined Arena for you? Too bad. Someone ruined BGs and pvp long before Ghostcrawler. When pvp progression changed from fighting in Hillsbrad for as long as possible to grind honor all the way to 2v2, 3v3, and 5v5, skirmishes in a closed environment, with a set rules of what abilities can and can't be used, it's a truely sad state of affairs.

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  • 129. Re: I don't see why you all hate Ghostcrawler   09/26/2009 04:10:09 AM PDT
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friendly arguements don't affect your hobby u invested tons of time into either tho



What a sad worldview you have that you should hate someone you never met because they make a video game just slightly less good than it could be, in your own opinion.

And that time spent being entertained in a video game is an "investment" that must be protected like a pension that your life depends on.

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  • 130. Re: I don't see why you all hate Ghostcrawler   09/26/2009 05:40:06 AM PDT
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"Gc, shadowpriest dps is too low!"

"Give me more than opinion and anecdotal evidence."

"Ok, here is a pie chart and a video and personal accounts and 100 parses, and every other class agreeing with us."

"We think shadow priest dps is ifne.'

"Whoa seriously!? How can you say that after everything we showed you? Why do you think we are fine?"

"We think shadow priest dps is fine."

"Yeah you already said that, but give us a @##*ing reason because it makes no sense!"

"We think shadow priest dps is fine."

"It's like you're just protecting your own ego's and can't give a reason as to why one class should be so far behind. Is that what's going on?"

"We think shadow priest dos is fine."



^^^Situations like that may have something to do with it. But I doubt anyone "hates" GC, as I'm sure no one has actually met Gc. He is probably a very nice person outside of business. I'm personally not a big fan of his vague answers and double speak, as I'm sure most people aren't. But it's the nature of the beast.


You forgot the part where he bans several people in between and throws out his own anecdotal evidence.

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  • 131. Re: I don't see why you all hate Ghostcrawler   09/26/2009 06:56:27 AM PDT
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I think the answer is twofold: first, you can't please everyone, and he doesn't (although he does please some). Second, people don't like the answers he gives. I'm sure he'd be more popular if he responded with, "K, we'll buff you" whenever whatever class is weak at that moment (or perceived as weak) QQs, but the game would be the worse for it.

It's not that he avoids giving an answer, people just don't like the answer they get.
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  • 132. Re: I don't see why you all hate Ghostcrawler   09/26/2009 08:51:17 AM PDT
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I always said that when my posting was doing more harm than good that maybe it was time to stop. I think I'll at least chill it out a little. I will continue to read the forums though. If you want to make sure the WoW developer see your feedback, this is still a good place to post.

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  • Garrosh
  • 133. Re: I don't see why you all hate Ghostcrawler   09/26/2009 08:53:03 AM PDT
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I always said that when my posting was doing more harm than good that maybe it was time to stop. I think I'll at least chill it out a little. I will continue to read the forums though. If you want to make sure the WoW developer see your feedback, this is still a good place to post.


Give the mouthbreathers on these forums any sense of entitlement and they take it for granted. Hate to see you go but i don't blame you.
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  • 134. Re: I don't see why you all hate Ghostcrawler   09/26/2009 08:55:23 AM PDT
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I always said that when my posting was doing more harm than good that maybe it was time to stop. I think I'll at least chill it out a little. I will continue to read the forums though. If you want to make sure the WoW developer see your feedback, this is still a good place to post.
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  • 135. Re: I don't see why you all hate Ghostcrawler   09/26/2009 09:00:29 AM PDT
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I always said that when my posting was doing more harm than good that maybe it was time to stop. I think I'll at least chill it out a little. I will continue to read the forums though. If you want to make sure the WoW developer see your feedback, this is still a good place to post.


Your posting is fine. It's better that players know you think differently than they do than you not posting at all and them not knowing what the hell Devs are thinking. If you think SPriests are fine, they should know that you think they are fine, so in the case you are wrong, they can work on proving you wrong with data and discussion. Thinking "Do they think my DPS is fine? Do they plan on fixing it if it's not fine?" isn't the most fun thing in the world.

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  • 136. Re: I don't see why you all hate Ghostcrawler   09/26/2009 09:01:30 AM PDT
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Damn, the trolls won.

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  • 137. Re: I don't see why you all hate Ghostcrawler   09/26/2009 09:04:01 AM PDT
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I don't know if I've ever said this, but the insights from GC posts are a large portion of my enjoyment from this game's development and community. I hope the cooling off period doesn't last too long GC - also we're a little nicer in the Tanking forum? (maybe?).
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  • 138. Re: I don't see why you all hate Ghostcrawler   09/26/2009 09:04:21 AM PDT
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This is why we can't ever have nice things.
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  • Garrosh
  • 139. Re: I don't see why you all hate Ghostcrawler   09/26/2009 09:04:42 AM PDT
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This is why we can't ever have nice things.
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