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  • 0. warlock conflagrate   09/29/2009 04:05:50 AM PDT
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When im playing my warlock and I'm in a raid with other warlocks my Conflagrate messes up. Lets say i dont have the target currently immolated and another warlock in my group does, my Conflagrate lights up like i can use it, it casts but then says something like i need to have immolate on the target.

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i notice this too,,, blizz please hot fix

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  • 1. Re: warlock conflagrate   09/29/2009 06:12:10 AM PDT
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Yer iv noticd this to, having to use immolate twice or not knowing its faded off quicker than expected can = a lack in dps.
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  • 2. Re: warlock conflagrate   09/29/2009 07:28:36 AM PDT
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so, youre complaining because you can't keep track of your own debuffs on the target?
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  • 3. Re: warlock conflagrate   09/29/2009 09:56:49 AM PDT
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Apparently. I use Forte for Warlocks and it's great. Nice little spell list and it's duration left on the target mob. It helps the lazy lock like my alt in good rotation.
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  • 4. Re: warlock conflagrate   09/29/2009 10:10:49 AM PDT
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so, youre complaining because you can't keep track of your own debuffs on the target?


Not when someone else has the exact same debuff and you don't know which is yours...

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  • 5. Re: warlock conflagrate   09/29/2009 10:21:26 AM PDT
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When im playing my warlock and I'm in a raid with other warlocks my Conflagrate messes up. Lets say i dont have the target currently immolated and another warlock in my group does, my Conflagrate lights up like i can use it, it casts but then says something like i need to have immolate on the target.

taken from lock forums

i notice this too,,, blizz please hot fix


If you don't have an Immolate on the target, and you try to cast Conflagrate, does Conflagrate go onto cooldown and use the mana but do no damage?

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  • 6. Re: warlock conflagrate   09/29/2009 10:28:10 AM PDT
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Q u o t e:


Not when someone else has the exact same debuff and you don't know which is yours...


PROTIP: even with the default blizzard UI, your debuffs are bigger...
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  • 7. Re: warlock conflagrate   09/29/2009 10:38:50 AM PDT
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Noticed this last night on Onyxia....no mana used, no CD so i just cast immo and conflag works..but same issue as OP...
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  • 8. Re: warlock conflagrate   09/29/2009 11:20:15 AM PDT
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If you don't have an Immolate on the target, and you try to cast Conflagrate, does Conflagrate go onto cooldown and use the mana but do no damage?


If you do not have Immolate on the target (but someone else does), and you try to cast Conflagrate, it just gives the error that you can't use that yet. No mana is consumend, the spell is not put on cooldown. The issue is that the icon is lit up as if it could be used.

If there is no Immolate on the target, the spell is dimmed. If there is someone else's immolate on the target, the spell lights up (as if it can be used), but can't be used.

If your own immolate is on the target, it is lit up and works as it is supposed to.

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  • 9. Re: warlock conflagrate   09/29/2009 03:58:32 PM PDT
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I actually asked this question a while back.

When another lock casts immolate, the conflagrate button on your toolbar lights up like conflagrate is able to be used (even though you haven't cast immolate yet)

Look at the tool tip for conflagrate ...

Consumes an Immolate or Shadowflame effect on the enemy target to instantly deal damage equal to 12 sec of your Immolate or 8 sec of your Shadowflame.

The tooltip implies that you should be able to use conflagrate and I believe that it is probably why your conflagrate button lights up but fails to cast for what ever reason. The tooltip implies that it consumes AN immolate, it dosen't specify that it must be your immolate.

The spell dosen't work the way that the tooltip implies and personally I dont' think it should, it would be crazy if you could use conflagrate off of someone elses immolate. I think they should tidy up the tooltip and fix the bug where the conflagrate button lights up ready for use when some other lock has immolate up but not you.
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  • 10. Re: warlock conflagrate   09/29/2009 04:29:33 PM PDT
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This is currently working as intended in regards to Conflagrate not being cast if you do not have an Immolate or Shadowflame on the target. The icon may show that it is available to be cast if another Warlock has one of those effects on the target, but this is something that cannot be currently changed. This may be changed in the future, but as of now it is working correctly.

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  • 11. Re: warlock conflagrate   09/30/2009 12:21:07 AM PDT
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Uh....no.....

It's not working correctly if the spell is lighting up but you cannot use it.

I understand only using your immolate, but the action bar should stay unlit.

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  • 12. Re: warlock conflagrate   09/30/2009 04:27:40 AM PDT
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Uh....no.....

It's not working correctly if the spell is lighting up but you cannot use it.

I understand only using your immolate, but the action bar should stay unlit.


Dresorull said it may be changed in the future but currently thats how it works (probably due to technical limitations in the way the UI currently works). SO yes it IS working as intended :P
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  • 13. Re: warlock conflagrate   10/09/2009 05:02:06 PM PDT
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its not working correctally if i not grouped with any other warlock do not have immo on a target i cannot even click conflag, (thus not activating a GCD) if another warlock has immo on the target but i do not you can click conflag,,, it dosent cost mana and it does no damage but it does trigger a gcd. any you get to i cannot do that yet error

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  • 14. Re: warlock conflagrate   10/09/2009 07:26:27 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:


If you don't have an Immolate on the target, and you try to cast Conflagrate, does Conflagrate go onto cooldown and use the mana but do no damage?


This has only happend to me once, but the other day I clearly had an immolate on a mob and could not cast conflagrate. It would not lite up, nor was it usable.
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  • 15. Re: warlock conflagrate   10/10/2009 09:26:54 PM PDT
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My main is a lock, and i have noticed this too. BUT there is an upside. Ever have that .3 second or so delay after immo hits but conflag wont go off? guess what if another immo is up during when that delay would normally be, its not there.

Also, just seriously go get InlineAura, an addon. it does nothing fancy but put a number on actionbar/spell icons. so my immolate button says 3,2,1 and i dont have to look at the stupid target frame.
If conflag is lit up, its pretty obvious that your eyes are on it and your immo icon is nearby. it will be lit up with a little highlight and have the seconds left on it. kinda gets rid of your "OMG CANT CAZT!!" problem
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  • 16. Re: warlock conflagrate   10/16/2009 11:50:45 AM PDT
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the problem i see on my side is when it lights up i press it no cd consume no mana but it activates the gcd so same it like twice then it locks you out for 2 gcds spam it 3 times then its 3 gcd
i think blizzard should fix this because it shouldnt try to cast if its not your immolate
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  • 17. Re: warlock conflagrate   10/16/2009 11:57:49 AM PDT
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and about corruption too when its like around 5-2 secs soemtimes you cant re apply it and it triggers gcd and if you put latency to play then it hard because i think it like around 2sec when you cant clip it but for me it plays at random sometimes its at 5 sec sometimes its at 2 sec sometimes its at 3sec and i cant clip it and turn out wasting a gcd for me i think you have the option to clip it at will due to latency that spike up and down

im testing this on a target dummy coz sometimes i wonder why i didt re apply the corruption and check combat log and it didnt miss and im 100% sure i did try to clip it coz the gcd went up so i found out by testing the target dummies same as the conflage which for me its a bug

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  • 18. Re: warlock conflagrate   10/17/2009 12:55:01 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:
This is currently working as intended in regards to Conflagrate not being cast if you do not have an Immolate or Shadowflame on the target. The icon may show that it is available to be cast if another Warlock has one of those effects on the target, but this is something that cannot be currently changed. This may be changed in the future, but as of now it is working correctly.



so its working as inttended if it gets you GCD?
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  • 19. Re: warlock conflagrate   10/18/2009 10:08:19 AM PDT
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Your not getting the global cooldown, your getting your latency to the server and back. The time it takes for you to tell bliz your casting the spell and bliz to return the.. oh no your not, you havnt applied the proper debuff yet to do so. You should notice your GCD resetting when the spell fails to go off. A fix for this is knowing if you didnt cast an Immo you cant cast a conflag.
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