When Onyxia first came out in 2004, it took guilds WEEKS to kill it.

The new Onyxia was supposed tooned for level 80 yet people walked in and one shot it.

I guess the question is, is it really a matter of raiding being easier or Onyxia being too easy?

From my perspective, I would have enjoyed a heroic version that was somewhat challenging as opposed to the version we have now which is pretty facerollable.

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When Onyxia first came out in 2004, it took guilds WEEKS to kill it.

The new Onyxia was supposed tooned for level 80 yet people walked in and one shot it.

I guess the question is, is it really a matter of raiding being easier or Onyxia being too easy?

From my perspective, I would have enjoyed a heroic version that was somewhat challenging as opposed to the version we have now which is pretty facerollable.

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This is not meant to be progression.

This was given as a gift from Blizzard to relive some of the more 'memorable' moments from the original encounter, ie, 'Deep Breaths'.

The first time, Ony was end-game or pretty near. Now it's just a nostalgic homage to celebrate 5 years.

Come now Stabby, you've been around way too long for this attept at trolling to be taken seriously.


For all that might think this is a serious question (which it wasn't), here's a serious answer:

We can one shot her because we spent weeks learning her in the past. The fight is not complex compared to the stuff we do now-a-days, and we have more tools to deal with dmg in a fight that was for the most part left unchanged.

As the poster above me said... it was meant as a fun throw-back to old raiding days with come cool rehashed items.

Well, people took so long to originally kill her, as nobody was adjusted to coordination in raiding like we are now.

Also, people were in scattered purples and blues when going to fight her.

Also, at times she would deep breath so often and randomly, it was near impossible to even kill her.

-Rapid deep breaths were fixed
-People got gear and more coordinated
-She's been on farm ever since

Edit: A heroic version...what would that include. Deep breaths every 5 seconds (you know...when she isn't deep breathing, or taking 20 secs to cast it)? More silly whelps? Stuff hurting more? It's a joke as it is...a "heroic" version would make it on par with the difficulty of actual boss fights.

Edit #2: Non hard mode, 10 man boss fight.

Posting in a StabbyMcbeal troll thread.

/happy

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Heroic mode would have more Wardens and she would possibly have another attack like a swipe or something

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She has a frontal cleave. If you want her to have one of those silly chain swipe things, like whatshisface (2nd BWL boss), then nothing would change...as nobody should be standing in front of Onyxia, or anywhere near in front of her, anyway.

Wardens are easy enough as it is. Oh look, let me tank that, and turn it from people. Oh no, its casting its aoe...lets move. Yay.

They die fast enough for that fight to be boring. Half the time as melee, I sit around twiddling my thumbs waiting for another to spawn.

Not to mention, most people are veterans to the encounter, and have prior knowledge of how the fight works.

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The new Onyxia is meant to be more of a celebration of the 5 years of World of Warcraft and not a progression encounter. The way it is setup is for as many people as possible to still enjoy in the game and get some extra bonus loot/emblems/bags/gems on top of that.

On top of that, players certainly understand the game much better now than they did when Onyxia first came out. This became pretty clear when people didn't get much better gear but were able to kill her with fewer and fewer players even at level 60.

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aka smack the loot pinata!

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The new Onyxia is meant to be more of a celebration of the 5 years of World of Warcraft and not a progression encounter. The way it is setup is for as many people as possible to still enjoy in the game and get some extra bonus loot/emblems/bags/gems on top of that.

On top of that, players certainly understand the game much better now than they did when Onyxia first came out. This became pretty clear when people didn't get much better gear but were able to kill her with fewer and fewer players even at level 60.

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I believe she was 3-manned before BC came out.

And solo'd before WotLK

And solo'd even more before 3.2.2 (hell, my bank has all 18-slotters, thanks to her).

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Not to mention, most people are veterans to the encounter, and have prior knowledge of how the fight works.

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This.

Death as a teaching tool in games is passe.

Hence failures wiping on her over and over this week; they are the ones who cannot learn.

The largest factor is definitely the fact that she was new at the time. Stronger and old is still old. Any new encounter has to be learned, and for old-school Ony had to be learned by 40 people. Now a lot of people have experience fighting her so they know what to expect, and you only need to teach 10 or 15 people.

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This became pretty clear when people didn't get much better gear but were able to kill her with fewer and fewer players even at level 60.

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And were able to kill her even with the most outrageous of class comps.

All druid Ony FTW!

Just for fun dude, we all know the fight...so its pretty must just for fun...you know fun, why we play the game!


On a side note It was a blast!

Thanks Blizz

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And were able to kill her even with the most outrageous of class comps.

All druid Ony FTW!

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All shaman OS10 is more fun. We have frost shock.

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The largest factor is definitely the fact that she was new at the time. Stronger and old is still old. Any new encounter has to be learned, and for old-school Ony had to be learned by 40 people. Now a lot of people have experience fighting her so they know what to expect, and you only need to teach 10 or 15 people.

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Also, Ony was the only truly interesting WoW boss at release; every other one was EQ level tank 'n spank 'n one measly twist. Hell, people didnt even figure out her P2->P3 aggro mechanics till 2 months before BC shipped.

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Posting in a StabbyMcbeal troll thread.

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