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  • 121. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 03:59:20 PM PDT
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please don't tell me thats KT in that picture >.>


I guess he wasn't lying when he said our victory was a hollow one, and that he'll return with powers beyond our imagining. :P

Plus he was Arthas' best buddy in WC3!
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  • Magtheridon
  • 122. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 04:00:10 PM PDT
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You are correction, at least with how we currently plan to do it (things can still change!) - the plan is for 2 raid ID lockouts, not 4.

Sorry for any confusion on this.


Can this switch be flipped back and forth over the course of the raid progression? Like, can we do Boss 1 2 and 3 hard mode, 4 5 6 easy mode, and then for whatever reason do boss 7 hard mode again? Or is it all or nothing every week?
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  • Rivendare
  • 123. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 04:04:40 PM PDT
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Can this switch be flipped back and forth over the course of the raid progression? Like, can we do Boss 1 2 and 3 hard mode, 4 5 6 easy mode, and then for whatever reason do boss 7 hard mode again? Or is it all or nothing every week?



I suspect it will be like Ulduar, you can pick and chose what hard modes you want to do using this new UI feature that seems to toggle hard modes on and off, instead of some kind of fight mechanic activating it (like killing XT's heart or getting to Thorim in a certain amount of time)
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  • 124. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 04:08:35 PM PDT
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I guess he wasn't lying when he said our victory was a hollow one, and that he'll return with powers beyond our imagining. :P

Plus he was Arthas' best buddy in WC3!

I bet when Arthas hits 20%, he'll re-summon KT and Anub. Turning it to the most epic 20% in the history of WoW. Of course every 9 seconds, they will IMPALECOILNOVA one member of your raid, dealing 12k physical + 12k shadow + 12k frost damage instantly.
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  • 125. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 04:10:35 PM PDT
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Can this switch be flipped back and forth over the course of the raid progression? Like, can we do Boss 1 2 and 3 hard mode, 4 5 6 easy mode, and then for whatever reason do boss 7 hard mode again? Or is it all or nothing every week?



Assuming everything goes as planned, you can switch it back and forth as much as you like. Encounter 1 on hard, 2 on normal, 3 on hard, 4 on normal, etc.

In effect it works out similar to Ulduar but it's with a much more clear method in the UI as opposed to the fairly confusing process of figuring out some encounter mechanics just to activate it.

Shark.
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  • 126. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 04:21:27 PM PDT
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Any info on emblems yet? I just want to know if emblems of triumph are going to be as easily obtainable in 3.3.0 as conquest is right now. I'm assuming if they create a new emblem that will drop in ICC, it's possible that they'll make it to where you get 2 from the daily heroic, 1 triumph from daily dungeon, and then triumph emblems drop from bosses in heroic and ToC10/25. I'm just speculating here because that's what they did with Ulduar, you can still get emblems of conquest from there and heroics. Basically just think of this as an emblem progression theory.

Or perhaps they could at least make it to where we can buy 1 emblem of triumph for maybe 5 emblems of conquest, I'd gladly pay that because I farm heroics all the time.

P.S. I only brought this up because of the !*%#head elites who won't let us do raids with them. I'm not too fond of gear checkers because they have no idea that it's all skill-based. If they don't make it easier to get emblems of triumph in the next major content patch, I don't think I'll ever get to stare Arthas in the eye as he begs for mercy in ICC. (Seriously, I couldn't even get in a Naxx25 raid because the gear checker was a douchebag, saying my item lvl 213+ gear wasn't "good enough")


General reminder: Things can still change.

The current plan is to make Emblems of Triumph the "base" of emblems so everything that drops Emblems of Conquest would be changed to Triumph and then the new raid content would drop the new highest emblem along with things like the heroic daily and such.

Shark.
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  • Azuremyst
  • 127. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 04:23:35 PM PDT
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General reminder: Things can still change.

The current plan is to make Emblems of Triumph the "base" of emblems so everything that drops Emblems of Conquest would be changed to Triumph and then the new raid content would drop the new highest emblem along with things like the heroic daily and such.



You just pissed off alot of people fellow
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  • Baelgun
  • 128. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 04:24:12 PM PDT
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Sounds cool, but is KT gonna make another appearance? Well regardless, sounds cool.
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  • Azuremyst
  • 129. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 04:24:59 PM PDT
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Assuming everything goes as planned, you can switch it back and forth as much as you like. Encounter 1 on hard, 2 on normal, 3 on hard, 4 on normal, etc.

In effect it works out similar to Ulduar but it's with a much more clear method in the UI as opposed to the fairly confusing process of figuring out some encounter mechanics just to activate it.



That sounds fairly awesome tho
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  • 130. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 04:25:18 PM PDT
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General reminder: Things can still change.

The current plan is to make Emblems of Triumph the "base" of emblems so everything that drops Emblems of Conquest would be changed to Triumph and then the new raid content would drop the new highest emblem along with things like the heroic daily and such.


Well I suppose I can gear up my alt faster.

Q: Even so, will mages get robes, or at least the option of choosing robes, over tunics going forward?
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  • 131. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 04:25:42 PM PDT
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I agree. Although reading it over, it makes me think that the airship battle may be more like a Flame Leviathan fight and not a Faction Champs fight.

Still I wish they'd stop with all the vehicle combat.


They've said that there would be no vehicle based encounter. It seems likely that you're not going to be fighting the ship itself; rather, you may just fight it a little to down its defenses, then you fight off boarding parties while trying to get everyone over to the other ship to sabotage their defenses or engines.

Fighting Saurfang would be nearly impossible, though.

Meh.
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  • Skywall
  • 132. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 04:28:09 PM PDT
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You just pissed off alot of people fellow


Why? Triumph emblems let you get the 232 T9 set, which is the same item level that will be dropping in the new 5-man. You can also get a few 245 pieces, but that's still worse than what drops in the Icecrown 10man easy mode.

We must hasten back on the wings of prose to the kingdom and its folk, who prompted my rather lengthy digression...
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  • 133. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 04:28:57 PM PDT
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Please tell me that the airship faction battle won't be Faction Champion style......


I hope we fight another actual raid.

"I love this form. Specially during Pirate day.

I go over, kill allies, jump into the water and sausage away. "

- Onahail, Terokkar
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  • 134. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 04:30:05 PM PDT
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Buzz... incorrect. (Bold by me)

With a great cry of strength, Arthas brought the might of Frostmourne to bear against the Lich King's icy prison and with a haunting scream, the Frozen Throne exploded, and shards of the crystal scattered on the ground. With Ner'zhul's thorny helm at his feet, Arthas leaned forward, picked it up and then placed the unimaginably powerful artifact on his head.

"Now," Ner'zhul's voice echoed within his mind, "we are one!"

In that moment, Ner'zhul and Arthas' spirits fused into a single mighty being, just as the Lich King had always planned. And thus one of the most powerful entities on Azeroth was born.



QFT. Also, anyone who has done the Howling Fjord line that involves discovering the Secrets of Ymiron, you can walk up to the Lich King (who will promptly kill you for approaching him) and he goes on about how he was a Shaman at one point. That's clearly Ner'zhul talking, seeing as Arthas has never practiced Shamanism.

Meh.
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  • 135. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 04:35:35 PM PDT
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You just pissed off alot of people fellow


Who cares? They can't do anything without someone whining about something. 95% or more of the people who ENJOY this game don't come to the forums, they spend their time playing and having fun.
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  • 136. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 04:38:58 PM PDT
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Maybe I'm just living in my own world where I'm thinking of ways to make raiding more fun =/. I know it will never happen. I just wish it would go back to when if you had gear, it meant something, other than now where if you aren't in full epics the day you hit 80 something is wrong with you.

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I also like how almost every post going against my argument is from someone that has not done any hard modes in even 10 man ulduar, let alone anything harder. Just proving my point that no people that acutally do the hard content like how it is now.


People can't do the hard content when you have elitist raid leaders who demand that you need to have done the content in order to do the content.

In case that's too confusing...what I mean is the idiot raid leaders who want you to have an achievement before going into their PuG. It's been stated many times before that unless it's a high end raiding guild looking for a spot for badge runs, the raid leader himself hasn't completed it and wants people to carry him through. As if Achievements signify that you're competent. You can pull aggro and die within the first 30 seconds of the fight and get the achievement + gear.

Meh.
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  • Magtheridon
  • 137. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 04:40:20 PM PDT
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Bornakk, I must know, and I will love you forever if you answer this. Is that Lich pictured Kel'Thuzad?
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  • 138. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 04:42:33 PM PDT
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General reminder: Things can still change.

The current plan is to make Emblems of Triumph the "base" of emblems so everything that drops Emblems of Conquest would be changed to Triumph and then the new raid content would drop the new highest emblem along with things like the heroic daily and such.


Heroic daily farming... Every single day just to stay geared? I'd like to be able to do pvp or something on non raid days. Not aoe down content that was on farm 10 months ago.

Please D:
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  • 139. Re: Icecrown Citadel: The Frozen Throne   10/06/2009 04:43:53 PM PDT
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I wanna see Muradin as main hero....he's been hunting Arthas for a long time...
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