Just my thoughts really i could be wrong when their final designs come out but yeah all i'm seeing is old frostwyrm models from nax , dragons that have been in the game for ever, BE's , aboms(yeah we havn't seen em before) and more DK's

No truly unique ROS (reliquary of souls ) type bosses to "wow" the raiding community??

Like Arthas?

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Like Arthas?

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Final bosses don't count, i'm talkin bout the jucy ones to get to him

yeah i know what your pointing out, lore dictates somewhat alot about the mini bosses in dungeons, and in this case they didnt have to try too hard.(seems like they didnt)
this expansion has been over all to quick, not even a troll raid(which is ftl imo)

I guess their now finishing off the heroic dungeons of cataclysm now , pre orders out yet?

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Final bosses don't count

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Because you said so?

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Because you said so?

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it's his argument. he's talking about pre-final bosses.

honestly I have no idea what/why RoS is in there but it was a fun fight. random 3-faced floating thingy, nothing to do with the lore but a nice break from the typical tank-play, raid-damage fights.

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it's his argument. he's talking about pre-final bosses.

honestly I have no idea what/why RoS is in there but it was a fun fight. random 3-faced floating thingy, nothing to do with the lore but a nice break from the typical tank-play, raid-damage fights.

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I liked Bloodboil more >.>, RoS tended to devolve into "Damn I missed that interrupt!" "Ugh I lagged" /palmface moments. Bloodboil both as a shadow priest and then a tank was FUN, if only because I liked playing the Omen game.

so far BT was my favorite instance. As far as visuals and creativity went. ICC is sounds just like the culmination of a long line of reuse and recolor laziness..

ICC might be the last raid i do in wow, if i even make it to that :\

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The instance looks pretty, but yeah I doubt we're getting another Black Temple. When the actual surprise raid was scrapped in favor of this horribly contrived and designed ToC raid it was kind of the writing on the wall that Blizz wasn't going to plow a ton of resources into their raiding content anymore.

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very disappointing that the azjol nerub raid maps werent used in the first part of icecrown.

we should have had to fight through the city below to infiltrate ICC from below. I thought this might have been possible with the whole scenario of anubarak and nerubian tunnels below the colliseum... guess not. Its just getting to watered down. Raiding is getting weaker, lore is getting weaker....

yea..

Putting aside for now the fact we don't know anything really about the bosses or how we'll take them on...

What about the airship battles? That's not different enough?

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we should have had to fight through the city below to infiltrate ICC from below. I thought this might have been possible with the whole scenario of anubarak and nerubian tunnels below the colliseum... guess not. Its just getting to watered down. Raiding is getting weaker, lore is getting weaker....

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Hoofz, you're playing a goat that crash landed a spaceship after fleeing from the eredar that were originally draenei that got corrupted by sargeras and not the other way around.

Lore got watered down a while back ;)

I agree though.. back when I first heard about WotLK, it was obvious there would be a IC raid, I was hoping the first part would basically be a run through Azjol'Nerub.

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Putting aside for now the fact we don't know anything really about the bosses or how we'll take them on...

What about the airship battles? That's not different enough?

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I was more refering to the boss models, The airship battle sounds interesting at least.

Honestly i'd like a huge one of those undead with the noose on their necks..(the name escapes me at work atm!)

ITT we jump to conclusions about an instance we know next to nothing about. R&D as usual.

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Honestly i'd like a huge one of those undead with the noose on their necks..(the name escapes me at work atm!)

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Geist. They're kinda low-level undead, it'd be like having a zombie as a naxx boss.

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ITT we jump to conclusions about an instance we know next to nothing about. R&D as usual.

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I know right. We only know currently what the San'layn, Arthas, SIndragosa, and the generic Lich thing (assuming it's even a boss) look like. All this talk of BT is funny considering it reused models as old and generic as the giant Abyssals, Naga (omg he has a helmet that's amazing!), Shivan and the always creative Blood Elves in T6!

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ITT we jump to conclusions about an instance we know next to nothing about. R&D as usual.

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actually it's pretty much finished, their putting the finishing touches on the bosses, i think the list of em is almost complete to a very accurate degree

check mmo-champ.com

also seems the next xpack is to be out late next year, which is pretty good, (would have preffered 2011, jan) would give me enough time to enjoy the lewt on all my numerous alts and give blizz enough time to give us that troll raid before we start replacing it with cataclysm greens.

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actually it's pretty much finished, their putting the finishing touches on the bosses, i think the list of em is almost complete to a very accurate degree

check mmo-champ.com

also seems the next xpack is to be out late next year, which is pretty good, (would have preffered 2011, jan) would give me enough time to enjoy the lewt on all my numerous alts and give blizz enough time to give us that troll raid before we start replacing it with cataclysm greens.

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Ya, depending on when Ice Crown hits they might need to do another SunWell. (Not in the difficulty department, but rather how it was random after we killed the big boss for the expansion because the next one wasn't ready yet.)

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actually it's pretty much finished, their putting the finishing touches on the bosses, i think the list of em is almost complete to a very accurate degree

check mmo-champ.com

also seems the next xpack is to be out late next year, which is pretty good, (would have preffered 2011, jan) would give me enough time to enjoy the lewt on all my numerous alts and give blizz enough time to give us that troll raid before we start replacing it with cataclysm greens.

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Oh I must have missed the footage of all the bosses.

Oh wait.

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Ya, depending on when Ice Crown hits they might need to do another SunWell. (Not in the difficulty department, but rather how it was random after we killed the big boss for the expansion because the next one wasn't ready yet.)

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Well BT came out in May when BC was released in February.

ICC will release over a year after WOTLK's release. I think the timeline is quite different. I don't think there will be another raid instance after ICC.

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Oh I must have missed the footage of all the bosses.

Oh wait.

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Some BE deathnights a green dragon, frostwhyrms, skelletons with fancy boots, BE and H\uman deathknights that's it, you can use your imagination to think how they would look .You may be more accurate than you thought

Well BT came out in May when BC was released in February.

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ICC will release over a year after WOTLK's release. I think the timeline is quite different. I don't think there will be another raid instance after ICC.

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But you must remebr that back thenpeople were still geting used to the new raid formats, hardly any hardcore guilds were present that early even on my server, i remeber even after a long time took people to get there coz of the blocks like attunements and quests .

These days instancign is a whole lot easier ,people will be done with ice crown in no time and will have little to do durign the wait from jan to dec.I'm fine with that as i don't have my alts geared yet, but it may be too long for most (inc blizz) especially when more announcements hit the webs about guilds doing world first ICC soon after it's release.

I find bosses that I haven't attempted to be underwhelming too.