From what i've seen Earth, Wind, and Fire is EXTREMELY difficult if not impossible, And there is no reward for this challenging fight. I suggest 2 things for this encounter.

First: Nerf it, to having all 3 bosses die within 3 minutes of each other

Second: A title for completing it, something like Master of The Elements or Destroyer of Elements

ehh =/ diddn't put too much thought into the titles
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you know.....achievements are sort of optional.... so if you think it's too hard and you dont like the reward as is... dont do it?

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you know.....achievements are sort of optional.... so if you think it's too hard and you dont like the reward as is... dont do it?

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Gotta catch em all

A title wouldn't be so bad for such a tough feat

Wait till 85, this achievement will be cakesauce.

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The composition for this is a little shaky. 1 healer and 1 tank for koralon, 1 healer and 2 tanks for archavon, and 1 tank (tanking emalon AND the adds) and 1 healer and 2 dps that have to be over 10k it seems to make up for the lost dps. Then after that it calls for extreme coordination.

But yes, at 85 this will be 10x easier and if any guild gets it now they deserve a title like "Laserturkey, Winner of Teh Interwebz."

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That's not really how you do it, it also definitely isn't impossible to do. Hard yes, but definitely isn't impossible right now.

QQ

It's not impossible, and it's not extremely difficult. You do realise the bosses no longer have a leash limit correct?

Somebody has already done the fight on 10man, and I'm sure a 25man kill can't be far off, if it hasn't happened already. I really can't be bothered to go looking it up for you, but if you dig through MMO champ's recent news you'll find it in there somewhere.

Stop with the QQ and actually try it for yourself if you think it's so hard. Once you know the bosses can all be dragged to one room, it really makes the fight seem much more trivial than before.

With that said, Lumberjacked needs to give a title, too!

Elzam the Lumberjack, mmmm....

One of our tanks comedy-pulled Archavon while we were fighting Emalon last night and it was pretty trivial to deal with. Adding Koralon to the mix wouldn't really make it more difficult. The only real threat from any of them is a supercharged Emalon add, but that's easy to deal with. It's not that the achievement is actually difficult, it's that nobody has bothered to do it on 25-man. There are a couple obvious reasons for that (no real incentive, not many people bother to raid VoA as a full guild raid), but by no means is this an especially difficult achievement. Any of the Coliseum hardmodes are harder.

If they do decide to add a title, what should it be?

Supreme, imo.

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One of our tanks comedy-pulled Archavon while we were fighting Emalon last night and it was pretty trivial to deal with. Adding Koralon to the mix wouldn't really make it more difficult. The only real threat from any of them is a supercharged Emalon add, but that's easy to deal with. It's not that the achievement is actually difficult, it's that nobody has bothered to do it on 25-man. There are a couple obvious reasons for that (no real incentive, not many people bother to raid VoA as a full guild raid), but by no means is this an especially difficult achievement. Any of the Coliseum hardmodes are harder.

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The fight is only difficult because of the enrage timers and the period of dealing with all three at once, so guaging the difficulty by how hard emalon and archavon at the same time was doesn't work. As a note, it is harder to do in 10man than any colliseum hardmodes, and iId say harder on 25man than any 25man hard mode aside from anub'arak.

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From what i've seen Earth, Wind, and Fire is EXTREMELY difficult if not impossible, And there is no reward for this challenging fight. I suggest 2 things for this encounter.

First: Nerf it, to having all 3 bosses die within 3 minutes of each other

Second: A title for completing it, something like Master of The Elements or Destroyer of Elements

ehh =/ diddn't put too much thought into the titles
PLEASE BUMP IF YOU LIKE THIS!! =]

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Impossible would've been pre-nerf to the ground XT, which was impossible to pull off. This, however has been done and really wasn't impossible by any standards.

It takes approx. 2 minutes max to down each of the bosses individually. Learn to deal with the mechanics and it really isn't terribly hard to decipher a strat. And no, it doesn't need a title or anything special. At this point, a lot of guilds will do it because running ToC twice in one night is the biggest snorefest ever. Then you run Ulduar for the hell of it because well, there's nothing else to do. Challenges like this is what keeps people interested in the game. Not free loot or free title oriented zones. Sorry your PUGS will not be able to handle it? :(

I know they've said that there's no additional reward....but IMO I think it would be a good gesture to have all of em drop triumph badges for a kill of this nature, not just koralon. Thoughts?

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I know they've said that there's no additional reward....but IMO I think it would be a good gesture to have all of em drop triumph badges for a kill of this nature, not just koralon. Thoughts?

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It'd be pretty hard to make something like that happen from a technical stand point.

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It'd be pretty hard to make something like that happen from a technical stand point.

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Not really

Something along the lines of (this is pseudo code)

IF [Achievement Conditions completed]
- Create Chest Item at the cross roads between bosses (this contains badges)

Else [No Achievement Conditions completed]
- Do nothing.


*Edit*

The code already exists to detect whether an achievement should be granted to a player, its just an extra triggered event to generate the chest item/