Wasn't there a post about that on page one?

Why did you scale it for 80 when 80's can't get experience?

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The reduced experience in Alterac Valley is due to the fact that Battleground experience is based off of the level of the Battleground. Characters level 70-79 are no longer getting experience based on level 80 characters. As a result of this, we are now able to do an across-the-board increase to experience gains from all Battlegrounds in order to make sure that no Battleground feels too unrewarding in terms of experience. We have also made it so the experience bonus from heirloom items work properly in Battlegrounds.

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lol...

Once I realized I could get something like 5000XP/minute chain multi-pulling +2 con mobs with rest XP with my DK, AV became totally irrelevant. Then again, so did questing.

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Q u o t e:
The reduced experience in Alterac Valley is due to the fact that Battleground experience is based off of the level of the Battleground. Characters level 70-79 are no longer getting experience based on level 80 characters. As a result of this, we are now able to do an across-the-board increase to experience gains from all Battlegrounds in order to make sure that no Battleground feels too unrewarding in terms of experience. We have also made it so the experience bonus from heirloom items work properly in Battlegrounds.

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Then why is it so bad?

You get something around 6k xp per objective (if I remember right) in the 60-69 bracket, but each level only requires ~600,000xp.

Now in the 70-79 bracket you're getting 9-10k xp per objective, but each level now requires a staggering ~1,500,000xp.

The total xp per level has more than doubled between the 2 brackets, but the xp gained from doing av only went up 30% from the earlier bracket.

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Q u o t e:
The reduced experience in Alterac Valley is due to the fact that Battleground experience is based off of the level of the Battleground. Characters level 70-79 are no longer getting experience based on level 80 characters. As a result of this, we are now able to do an across-the-board increase to experience gains from all Battlegrounds in order to make sure that no Battleground feels too unrewarding in terms of experience. We have also made it so the experience bonus from heirloom items work properly in Battlegrounds.

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gonna be totally honest with you. even before bg xp. i didnt really do any other battleground excpt AV maybe the two other new ones. for some of us players we perfer AV to the others becuase when i cap and defend a tower i feel like actully acomplished something in bgs. but with your new afk rule i cant Defend my towers very long. the mentalty that in pvp we should just fight fight fight fight isnt very fun sounding.
War isnt all about fighting

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Why did you scale it for 80 when 80's can't get experience?

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Exactly:

Which is why they "fixed" it.

They probably did it accidentally, then got around to fixing it.



My take on it is this:

Evidently if a level 70 can do a quest that is meant for a level 80, or a thing, he must
get a much larger XP bonus than if he is a level 70 and the thing is meant for a 79.
So people are really noticing this when its no longer up to "80?"

I don't really care. I prefer AV actually being 80 again.

On the other hand why you messed with the experience is quite dumb.

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Q u o t e:
The reduced experience in Alterac Valley is due to the fact that Battleground experience is based off of the level of the Battleground. Characters level 70-79 are no longer getting experience based on level 80 characters. As a result of this, we are now able to do an across-the-board increase to experience gains from all Battlegrounds in order to make sure that no Battleground feels too unrewarding in terms of experience. We have also made it so the experience bonus from heirloom items work properly in Battlegrounds.

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So what in the process you made a mistake with the XP that actually made the game MUCH better then you guys reverted to your original crappy idea. GJ

Seriously, some people are saying that they ruined one of the last good parts of the game?

Really?

They added XP in BG's not that long ago. They didn't think that it'd be so easy to level through AV, so they just fixed it. It's not like they're removing it entirely, just making people put in some effort, rather than getting from 50-80 in a few days.

If people can't even put in the effort to get to 80 without getting a free ride AFK'ing in AV and ruining that aspect of the game for 80's, it definitely deserves a nerf.

What this boils down to imo, is once again...leveling pvp is NOT a viable option. Yeah, you can, but it will take a good double the amount of time as questing with boa chest/shoulders. Once you hit Northrend levels. I personally have 5 80s and like 3-4 more 70s. I'm working on a fresh toon all the way from 1 right now. Just like everyone else who has leveled this amount of toons, I'm so terribly bored of the same quests and on my mage, I was able to do the AV weekend + pre-nerf AV xp and it was AMAZING, fast and fun. However, with all that said, at that xp pace (and around a 50% win rate) I could still out level AV doing quests. So it was never faster for people who knew what they were doing, it was just something more fun and interesting. Back to facerolling terribly boring collect 900 of this and kill 1000 of this quests...

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Seriously, some people are saying that they ruined one of the last good parts of the game?

Really?

They added XP in BG's not that long ago. They didn't think that it'd be so easy to level through AV, so they just fixed it. It's not like they're removing it entirely, just making people put in some effort, rather than getting from 50-80 in a few days.

If people can't even put in the effort to get to 80 without getting a free ride AFK'ing in AV and ruining that aspect of the game for 80's, it definitely deserves a nerf.

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I hate self righteous people like you. I've played TONS of AVs since 3.2. 98% of people aren't afk'ing (at least until you hit about 2 in the morning CST) to level in AV. They were actually participating. In fact, most of the AFK'ers I saw? Guess what, it wasn't the level 71-79 people, it was the 80s. Sorry if you experienced something different, but I bet you're exaggerating. Saying everyone should be punished for the acts of a VERY small minority, especially when leveling alone is punishing enough is just pure stupid flowing from your fingers.

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With the launch of patch 3.2.2 today there have been some changes to the Alterac Valley battleground and we wanted to clarify what exactly has been done.

Level 80 characters now have their own bracket and there is a separate bracket for characters that are levels 70 to 79. This change was originally planned for patch 3.3 but it was accidently applied to the current patch 3.2.2. As we had already intended to make this change so that players who are leveling play together and players who are at the level cap play together, we will be keeping the bracket setup this way, but the level of the bosses in the brackets below level 80 will be reduced to compensate. The reduced experience in Alterac Valley is due to the fact that Battleground experience is based off of the level of the Battleground. Characters level 70-79 are no longer getting experience based on level 80 characters. As a result of this, we are now able to do an across-the-board increase to experience gains from all Battlegrounds in order to make sure that no Battleground feels too unrewarding in terms of experience. We have also made it so the experience bonus from heirloom items work properly in Battlegrounds.

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and becasue of this dumb change u lost my bizz GO GO xbox live

You left out the main point of my post. People are blasting through levels, which is not the way it's supposed to be. The amount of XP in AV was ridiculous.

Also, in no way was I exaggerating, as I never gave a number.

The XP was perfect for people with 7 80's

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I hate self righteous people like you. I've played TONS of AVs since 3.2. 98% of people aren't afk'ing (at least until you hit about 2 in the morning CST) to level in AV. They were actually participating. In fact, most of the AFK'ers I saw? Guess what, it wasn't the level 71-79 people, it was the 80s. Sorry if you experienced something different, but I bet you're exaggerating. Saying everyone should be punished for the acts of a VERY small minority, especially when leveling alone is punishing enough is just pure stupid flowing from your fingers.

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AV leveling was out of control, tbh.

Going from 71-80 that quickly was not good for the game. TBH I did it and I feel like I lost out on quite a lot, although it was semi-interesting.

If you want to level through BG's you still can. It is just no longer the quickest easiest way it was. And there WERE a lot of AFKers in every single match. 5 cave dwellers per match is not good.

Those 80's that you saw are people who left their AFK program on on their computer from 75 and got 80 overnight without realizing it.

That /had/ to be nerfed. Seriously. Blizzard did the right thing.

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You left out the main point of my post. People are blasting through levels, which is not the way it's supposed to be. The amount of XP in AV was ridiculous.

Also, in no way was I exaggerating, as I never gave a number.

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"If people can't even put in the effort to get to 80 without getting a free ride AFK'ing in AV and ruining that aspect of the game for 80's, it definitely deserves a nerf."

That sure sounds like a generalization that anyone who did AV leveling is the worthless scum of the universe to me.

And you're kidding about the blowing through levels thing, right? As I posted above, I can do faster than AV weekend pre-nerf xp with normal leveling. While your average player probably doesn't have the quests memorized to a T like me and know all their own routes ahead of time, it doesn't change the fact that a dedicated person could still level faster. Thus, it was hardly out of whack. You should be able to level in pvp at the same pace as pve at this point in the game.

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You left out the main point of my post. People are blasting through levels, which is not the way it's supposed to be. The amount of XP in AV was ridiculous.

Also, in no way was I exaggerating, as I never gave a number.

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it really only take a week to get from 70-80 if your trying hard and useing WoW tourguides

edit for spelling