The famous resource for Unholy Death Knights that has been open since Wrath of the Lich King beta has been shut down. Titled "Unholy Gains Shadow of Death (Unholy DPS Discussion now with more 3.2!) (http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t53615-unholy_gains_shadow_death_unholy_dps_discussion_now_more_3_2_a/p54/), this has been *the* thread for source information in the rapidly changing Unholy tree. The World of Warcraft's premier site for theorycrafting has officially given up the ghost on Scourge Strike Unholy.

In its place, is a new thread, dealing with the new Obliterate Unholy spec. The very reasons for the EJ site lends itself to an ultimate pragmatism: Use what works, nothing else matters. They wouldn't, and unfortunately shouldn't, worry about things that simply do not work any more. Thus the closing of the old thread, and use of the new.

I still think there is something laughable about this, if only I didn't feel like someone kicked my puppy. Fifty four pages of condensed knowledge with its constant tweaks, changes, nerfs and buffs, are now, no more, and will soon drop off the page, only to be replaced by a thread detailing the exploits of a spec that by Blizzard's own definitions should be non-optimal.

So if Elitist Jerks didn't close the thread, Unholy would be viable?

Did you have a proposal for the ability? I mean something more robust than making it hit harder?

Maybe it's just a low priority. Last I checked, there's plenty of DKs and they're doing just fine.

Kalgan forbid, a class-specific theorycrafting forum that discusses the practical implementation of workable theories???

You're right, they totally should devote space to bloviating about specs that are demonstrably inferior. Definately worth their time and effort.

It does make an interesting statement to how bad things are mucked up with Unholy, but until a fix comes down the pipe (and it probably will), they might as well clean things up and make one solid resource for the current "in-thing".

After 30 odd pages, spec threads are bloody near useless anyway, it's people posting the same crap without having bothered to read the earlier pages of the thread, mindless speculation, and stupid gimmick spec ideas. A clean slate is necessary from time to time.

Adapting to a class that does fine is SRRSBSSNZZ.
Very glad to see this posted to, wasn't sure if that thread was still open and i just had to know that it was closed and the theory went elsewhere.

Cool story brah.

And another thread will resurface once they get rid of ArP in Cataclysm.

The game changes... and always will. No reason to get emo about it.

specs with 51+ Unholy are still viable. Just because Unholy is now chained to 13pts into the Frost Tree and has 1 dead weight Talent realy means nothing. How many Afflocks get away with less then 15pts in Destruction and put a talent point into Dark Pact? Pretty much noobs or no one.

At least they get to spec 51 points for PvP, if I did that, I would be slower then a turtle, with the attack power of level 1 critters

Man and Rec Bombs no longer work either! Overpowered mechanics are nerfed . Time and the game move on. What's viable today isn't come next patch sometimes.

EJ stopped being a good resource when every moron from the wow forums found out about it and started cluttering up that forum.

SS should just be buffed back up. The resilience change significantly reduced any burst damage and MS strike is hitting harder than it and SS doesn't even have a secondary effect. Buff SS!!!

I've honestly never found EJ to be all that useful. Maybe it's something about their site, but the data always seems old or irrelevant.

I probably just suck at google though. Wow isn't terribly hard to play, anyway.

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So if Elitist Jerks didn't close the thread, Unholy would be viable?

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You don't read much do you? Trust me, those comprehension skills will get a little better with some effort.

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You don't read much do you? Trust me, those comprehension skills will get a little better with some effort.

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You mean the perfect reading comprehension and science reasoning scores on the ACT were a lie? Now that I've been challenged by a level 6 alt, I'm starting to wonder if I might have had those test result charts upside down.

The OP is horribly written. It's obvious by context that he/she is complaining about the lack of unholy viablity, and using Elitist Jerks as some sort of voice of authority. However, his/her post does not logically provide the conclusion he/she thinks it does. The only way that that post could prompt any sort of agreement is on an emotional level, from people who already take it as self evident that there is something wrong with the current state of balance.

All I was doing was gently pointing that out. If you had better reading comprehension skills, you could have deduced that on your own. :)

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I've honestly never found EJ to be all that useful. Maybe it's something about their site, but the data always seems old or irrelevant.

I probably just suck at google though. Wow isn't terribly hard to play, anyway.

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I will agree that the threads can lag behind in updates to the first post - making them seem out of date. However, you're relying on one person using their spare time to make updates happen - so it does take time.

While I am not accusing the OP directly of this - many people seem to be running around claiming 'Well, EJ said this was right - so it must be!'. While it is the best resource for class information to be found, it's never a good idea to solely trust one source of information. Everyone makes mistakes - even the very intelligent and generous people who take the time to post on EJ.

That sucks

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You mean the perfect reading comprehension and science reasoning scores on the ACT were a lie? Now that I've been challenged by a level 1 alt, I'm starting to wonder if I might have had those test result charts upside down.

The OP is horribly written. It's obvious by context that he/she is complaining about the lack of unholy viablity, and using Elitist Jerks as some sort of voice of authority. However, his/her post does not logically provide the conclusion he/she thinks it does. The only way that that post could prompt any sort of agreement is on an emotional level, from people who already take it as self evident that there is something wrong with the current state of balance.

All I was doing was gently pointing that out. If you had better reading comprehension skills, you could have deduced that on your own. :)

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Just to be clear, you didnt need to say this. It was implied. Your heckler is the one looking bad for QQing about reading comprehension when he failed in the first place. I lol'ed at him, and you had to go and explain it to him. :)

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You mean the perfect reading comprehension and science reasoning scores on the ACT were a lie? Now that I've been challenged by a level 6 alt, I'm starting to wonder if I might have had those test result charts upside down.

The OP is horribly written. It's obvious by context that he/she is complaining about the lack of unholy viablity, and using Elitist Jerks as some sort of voice of authority. However, his/her post does not logically provide the conclusion he/she thinks it does. The only way that that post could prompt any sort of agreement is on an emotional level, from people who already take it as self evident that there is something wrong with the current state of balance.

All I was doing was gently pointing that out. If you had better reading comprehension skills, you could have deduced that on your own. :)

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I'd suggest practicing on a logic book too. You seem to think the level of a person making a statement has some impact on wether or not that statement is valid. They'll teach you different in the first chapter.

I find the fact that you suggest it does and then talking about "logically provide the conclusion he'she thinks it does" to be quiet funny. You might want to check those tests scores too just to make sure.

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I'd suggest practicing on a logic book too. You seem to think the level of a person making a statement has some impact on wether or not that statement is valid. They'll teach you different in the first chapter.

I find the fact that you suggest it does and then talking about "logically provide the conclusion he'she thinks it does" to be quiet funny. You might want to check those tests scores too just to make sure.

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Way to focus on the one aspect of the post you could possibly argue. Like most trolls, your purpose for posting here is to insult someone, and will take any tangent made available to you to do so.

The 'level 6' comment refers to you being too much of a coward to insult someone on your main. God forbid someone knows the main behind the troll.