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  • 0. Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   08/24/2009 10:46:46 PM PDT
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We were doing 25man ToC and everytime Gormok would come out it would lag up after like 10 seconds then disconnect me.

Each time i attempted to log back in it would finish the loading screen and just kick me back to "You have been disconnected"

Eventually i got back in just after he died as dreadscale was coming out the gate.

Exact same thing happened on every attempt, tried to without my add-ons and problem was still occuring.

Even tried it from a dps point of view instead of tank and it still kept booting me.

Any help with be appreciated.

Edit: Also about 5 others in vent mentioned that this was happening to them too =[

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  • 1. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   08/24/2009 11:13:16 PM PDT
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Happens to alot of my friends too. It is the Fire thing he drops. That is what causes it. Just like the Acid breath from the Thorim encounter. At least with Thorim, I get in when the 1st worm dies. Gormok, I will be lucky.

Only happens on 25 man,
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  • 2. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   08/24/2009 11:38:13 PM PDT
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This particular issue has been an issue for my guild since the patch. We are simply unable to do TOC 25man due to constant d/c's of our players on engage.

We have raised several tickets about it, attempted it 3 weeks in a row now with the same result, and the last time we attempted, as the GM and Raid Leader I instructed every member of our raid team to raise a ticket about this problem.

We received a standard response email: that they are working around the clock to resolve server issues and thankyou for bringing it to their attention.

As a GM of a guild on an extremely low population server, we have had problems getting a full raid online for a while now while core players have had to step down from raiding for one reason or another over the last few weeks. We had to come up with a solution to this problem and did so by committing one of our raiding nights to Naxx25's Raid Training/Gearing to boost our 25 man raiding team numbers. It was a huge success. We recruited 15 new raiders within 2 days.

NOW, my problem is that I have a full raid team that cannot progress into TOC due to this issue, even though we have completed all 3 out of 5 bosses in 10mans to date. The d/c issue is also now occuring in Ulduar 25mans just last night.

We have vent lagging out at the same time too due to what seems to be the extreme demand placed on our internet connections and all players affected by the d/c's have completed all the standard recommendations made by Blizzard. We can see quite plainly that this is a Blizzard server/instance/hardware issue as this does not happen at any other time except on engage of a boss.

My frustration is that we have worked so hard on our progression, our raiding numbers and our guild, and last night, due to the d/c problem, we had to call off the raid altogether even in ulduar. Many of my officers are now disheartened and reluctant to raid again and I can see this affecting so many other guilds and raids. I am in contact with other GM's of guilds on our server and they have the same problem, around 5 - 8 players d/cing on engage.

If our internet connections and raids were successfully downing bosses and progressing well before this patch, could someone please tell me why we are having such a problem with this now? While I was reading the "At my wits end" post (which was at the top of this forum when I opened it), I left that post open while i performed a router firmware update on my router, it took me less than an hour to perform that task, and when I reconnected to the internet, it was at the bottom of the forum with 48 new threads being added or updated, approximately half of which was regarding being d/c'd. I understand that Blizzard must address single issues, but what I dont yet understand is that this d/c problem on engage is a COMMON problem encountered by many guilds and players.

After playing World of Warcraft for 5 yrs now with my family, I have seen hotfixes, bug fixes, restarts etc many times over and we have done everything we know to do, but fail to overcome this problem in these instances.

What exactly is it in these instances that has been changed in the last patch that is affecting a small percentage of players? All I can see is that perhaps either our system requirements are no longer capable enough to handle the data processing to and from the server, which is a big no no for your customers, or, you have changed something in the game engine/mechanics that conflict with something in common with all these players' connections/systems. Either way, we have to be notified.

The biggest concern that I have is, as I recruit players, the very FIRST question I ask them is: Do you have a stable internet connection and do you ever get capped or shaped? And here we are with between 5 and 10 players d/cing on engage in both Ulduar and TOC. In taking my own responsibility as the GM and the Raid Leader, I have queried every possibility with my raiders... Do you use Smoothping/Lowerping.. do you have a battle.net account....do you have X mod enabled...and I run ORA2 to check Latency of the raid.. there is NOTHING in common with any of them. Their latency is usually between 250ms and 600ms when I check it except for one player in the US with a latency of 89ms.

So, what do you think it could be? Im stumped. I dont know whether to bother to put a raid together again or not. Last night on Hodir, five people being d/c'd over and over again, log back in - and we're either dead and at the front of the instance, yes our corpses just inside the instance door or we are alive and half the raid is dead because the healers d/c'd. How are we supposed to play and raid like that? Its impossible. And all of this was PERFECT before the patch.

I know you guys are working on it. But could you at least please let us know at least something that would satisfy us in the meantime instead of having people constantly looking at their own net connections, sytems, traceroutes and upgrades of their software and hardware with no further response. Please? Anything would help right now to avoid us just giving up all together.

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  • 3. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   08/25/2009 01:28:07 AM PDT
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Well said Samangel. Good post. Can blizz please address this issue?
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  • 4. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   08/25/2009 02:04:39 AM PDT
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Happens to alot of my friends too. It is the Fire thing he drops. That is what causes it. Just like the Acid breath from the Thorim encounter. At least with Thorim, I get in when the 1st worm dies. Gormok, I will be lucky.

Only happens on 25 man,


When i was on my hunter for an attempt ended up disconnecting before he even threw any fire bombs.

As for thorim 25 i don't know as i haven't been there on 25man.

and my realm is down for extended maintenance so all i can do is wait and hope something is fixed for tomorrow.
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  • 5. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   08/25/2009 01:41:47 PM PDT
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It is ridiculous. I am apping to a very solid raiding guild currently, and it might hurt my app process because of the disconn issue. Why are we paying so much money for broken encounters that lag people?

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It isn't my computer because I can run ANYTHING with zero lag or fps issues.

Please fix this.
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  • 6. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   08/25/2009 02:03:53 PM PDT
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There are enough threads on this forum regarding this issue, can we please get some sort of response? I'm looking at getting benched for the forseeable future until I can make it through a bossfight without a dc. It happened 6 straight attempts on Sunday, is anyone looking at this complaint?

In early August, a hotifx was released:

*Kel'Thuzad should no longer cause some players to disconnect during the encounter.

Seems awfully familiar...

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  • 7. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   08/25/2009 02:06:01 PM PDT
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Hello Lawlbubbles

If 5 of the people in your raid are having the issue and the other 20 are not then there is probably a client side issues at play.

try moving your Interface folder to the desktop (Make sure this is done while the game is closed). Make sure any addon updaters are closed prior to doing this and once it is done make sure to use the launcher to start the game. The interface folder can be returned to the World of Warcraft folder once it is determined that none of your addons are causing the issue.

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  • 8. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   09/02/2009 07:25:40 PM PDT
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We tried it again today. Same thing happened, Gormoc comes out, its fine for about 5 seconds, starts lagging up and then DC and can't get back in till he is near dead.

So i tried what you said, removing the interface folder, and the problem was still occurring.
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  • 9. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   09/02/2009 07:47:47 PM PDT
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Hello Lawlbubbles

If 5 of the people in your raid are having the issue and the other 20 are not then there is probably a client side issues at play.

try moving your Interface folder to the desktop (Make sure this is done while the game is closed). Make sure any addon updaters are closed prior to doing this and once it is done make sure to use the launcher to start the game. The interface folder can be returned to the World of Warcraft folder once it is determined that none of your addons are causing the issue.


Sorry but this answer is not enough. Not only should you not have to move a game folder out of its directory...But if many people in numerous guilds on numerous servers are having this issue (including myself) it's not clientside.

I run modless, 100% stock WoW. I have re-installed WoW, Windows, drivers, etc. I am a trained IT specialist just as a few others who have mentioned this issue are I am sure. I have trouble shotted this with no success. My PC is not over clocked, no heat issues. The game will not crash anywhere else except these 2 places (thorim and ToC gormak 25 man). I have tried to lower all effects to minimum on these fights as well with no success. I do not disconnect from Vent, internet or any other network loss at teh time of DC. Also, WoW does not generate a crash log of the event nor does windows event viewed list anything as well.

If I sit and skip Gormak, and come in at any later point in the instance, I do not crash...

My thoughts is it's a problem with the game engine with a specific hardware config.

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  • 10. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   09/02/2009 07:54:02 PM PDT
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We tried it again today. Same thing happened, Gormoc comes out, its fine for about 5 seconds, starts lagging up and then DC and can't get back in till he is near dead.

So i tried what you said, removing the interface folder, and the problem was still occurring.


Exact same problem
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  • 11. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   09/02/2009 08:08:04 PM PDT
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Hello Lawlbubbles

If 5 of the people in your raid are having the issue and the other 20 are not then there is probably a client side issues at play.

try moving your Interface folder to the desktop (Make sure this is done while the game is closed). Make sure any addon updaters are closed prior to doing this and once it is done make sure to use the launcher to start the game. The interface folder can be returned to the World of Warcraft folder once it is determined that none of your addons are causing the issue.


I'm having the same issues except it's really any 25 man. Deleted WTF, Interface, WDB folders. Turned down ALL settings. Nothing, still happens, constantly.
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  • 12. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   09/02/2009 08:10:19 PM PDT
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same thing is happening to my guild and we are constantly having multiple dc during the heroic version of gormack the impaler and there are a lot of posts out there of people complaining constant disconnects so maybe it's not clientside?!?!?!?!
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  • 13. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   09/02/2009 08:24:09 PM PDT
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Every person in our Heroic 25 man ToC raid tonight was experiencing MASSIVE lag during the first 60 seconds of Gormok every attempt we made (11 total). The lag was so bad that it made the encounter undoable.

We are hoping for a hot-fix some time this week before we continue in H TOC.

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  • 14. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   09/02/2009 09:44:11 PM PDT
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my guild was unable to kill gormoc on toc 25 heroic because we couldnt do it 15man.

like..10 of our players kept dcing, exaclty as described by the op.

PLEASE, fix this asap.

Even though they say Angels don't kill....
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  • 15. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   09/02/2009 10:16:52 PM PDT
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I would constantly d/c at the start of northrend beasts. Each time I could get back in at the start of phase 2 with no lag at all.
I can do every boss perfectly fine with little to no lag including the later bosses in ToC 25 man.
It seems to only be effecting the first phase of this encounter.

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  • 16. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   09/02/2009 10:22:47 PM PDT
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This happened to me and several guild members tonight on Heroic Beasts. It also occurs on Lord Jaxx, every other fight is fine for me. Internet never goes down, vent ping is fine, connection is stable, except in game.
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  • 17. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   09/03/2009 12:41:34 AM PDT
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Sorry but this answer is not enough. Not only should you not have to move a game folder out of its directory...But if many people in numerous guilds on numerous servers are having this issue (including myself) it's not clientside.

I run modless, 100% stock WoW. I have re-installed WoW, Windows, drivers, etc. I am a trained IT specialist just as a few others who have mentioned this issue are I am sure. I have trouble shotted this with no success. My PC is not over clocked, no heat issues. The game will not crash anywhere else except these 2 places (thorim and ToC gormak 25 man). I have tried to lower all effects to minimum on these fights as well with no success. I do not disconnect from Vent, internet or any other network loss at teh time of DC. Also, WoW does not generate a crash log of the event nor does windows event viewed list anything as well.

If I sit and skip Gormak, and come in at any later point in the instance, I do not crash...

My thoughts is it's a problem with the game engine with a specific hardware config.




Adding a "me too" post. Both Gormok and engaging Thorim, my connection becomes very unstable, often ejecting me from the game. I've tried disabling all addons, turning down my graphics etc, nothing makes a difference. It's only those two places - Beasts P1 and Thorim engage that do it. The rest of the fight is fine. It's definitely not client side, it strikes me as poor encounter design more than anything.

Also, seconding the Flame Patch notion. After keeping a closer eye on it, I seem to stay connected till the instant a flame patch appears. If there are none up, I can log back in again briefly.

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  • 18. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   09/03/2009 01:21:20 AM PDT
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This is happening on Baelgun. We've been in here 3 hours on the Northrend beasts. 10 - 15 seconds into the fight, we lose 2 - 3 people to a dc, and it's not the same people all the time.

Please fix this, it's NOT CLIENTSIDE.
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  • 19. Re: Gormoc the Impaler 25 man constant DC   09/03/2009 03:16:31 AM PDT
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Hello LawlbubblesIf 5 of the people in your raid are having the issue and the other 20 are not then there is probably a client side issues at play.
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