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  • Burning Legion
  • 120. Re: 31 bosses in icecrown raid.   08/11/2009 01:12:03 PM PDT
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looks like im gonna have to level my mage/hunter and solo farm the trash/reset for epix??
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  • 122. Re: 31 bosses in icecrown raid.   08/11/2009 02:59:30 PM PDT
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What do you mean by "I was the person who set the original Kill Yogg achievement to 22 minutes too. Just sayin'."?

I mean... "I was the person who set the original stroke my epeen. Just sayin'."?

That (what I said) sounded relatively condescending, but, more to the point (and no, I really didn't mean to come off as a /2 douche - just it's a sort of gutter descirption) what were you actually responding to? I saw it on MMO, and read the source, and tried to figure out, 'okay, GC is brilliant and in charge, he must be thinking and talking about some specific point'...but I honestly CAN'T find what exactly it was that you were talking about and referring to - what made you flare up. Perhaps ignore me. I tend to be too verbose and analytical...but, what did that mean? I would really like to know. Contact me personally if you'd rather not the banal forum nonsense....but, what?

What was the relevance of that comment? I know you were talking about ICC...but, I just CAN'T figure out where that comment is coming from, and it's bugging me out.


I put in the Yogg achievement with what I hoped was a ridiculous stand-in number. Clearly it wasn't ridiculous enough because players were variously excited or worried that it was a real number.

Then in an example on how we don't want raids to rotate in tanks, I wanted to pick what I hoped was a ridiculous number so that players wouldn't try and and deduce from my answer how many bosses Icecrown has.

Sadly, my sarcasm doesn't translate well to the forums. :)

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  • Bonechewer
  • 123. Re: 31 bosses in icecrown raid.   08/11/2009 03:07:33 PM PDT
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Well, I wouldn't be upset if there was 31 bosses. At least bigger then Ulduar please!

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  • 124. Re: 31 bosses in icecrown raid.   08/11/2009 03:14:16 PM PDT
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I put in the Yogg achievement with what I hoped was a ridiculous stand-in number. Clearly it wasn't ridiculous enough because players were variously excited or worried that it was a real number.

Then in an example on how we don't want raids to rotate in tanks, I wanted to pick what I hoped was a ridiculous number so that players wouldn't try and and deduce from my answer how many bosses Icecrown has.

Sadly, my sarcasm doesn't translate well to the forums. :)


31 with the raid extension feature didn't seem unreasonable to me. Sorry to hear it isn't true.
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  • 125. Re: 31 bosses in icecrown raid.   08/11/2009 03:18:04 PM PDT
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I put in the Yogg achievement with what I hoped was a ridiculous stand-in number. Clearly it wasn't ridiculous enough because players were variously excited or worried that it was a real number.

Then in an example on how we don't want raids to rotate in tanks, I wanted to pick what I hoped was a ridiculous number so that players wouldn't try and and deduce from my answer how many bosses Icecrown has.

Sadly, my sarcasm doesn't translate well to the forums. :)


You've said enough ridiculous things to support this level of cynicism.

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  • Magtheridon
  • 126. Re: 31 bosses in icecrown raid.   08/11/2009 03:25:45 PM PDT
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I put in the Yogg achievement with what I hoped was a ridiculous stand-in number. Clearly it wasn't ridiculous enough because players were variously excited or worried that it was a real number.

Then in an example on how we don't want raids to rotate in tanks, I wanted to pick what I hoped was a ridiculous number so that players wouldn't try and and deduce from my answer how many bosses Icecrown has.

Sadly, my sarcasm doesn't translate well to the forums. :)


Your sarcasm doesn't transalte because you immediatefuly refuted the sarcasm with a "(yes there are that many bosses in IC)" statement. I mean, come on.

People didn't think it was so ludicrous because we only got 5 bosses this patch, so we figured you were saving them for Icecrown.
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  • Alexstrasza
  • 127. Re: 31 bosses in icecrown raid.   08/11/2009 03:32:53 PM PDT
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I won't consider 31 bosses to have been promised, but i will still be disapointed yet again by having several hours of excitement over the possibilities of what may lie ahead only to have it yanked out from under me...

/Back to thinking of all the different ways living bomb could have been fixed and still helped mage single target DPS

Heres to hoping for a bigger icecrown raid than anything we've ever seen before....
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  • 129. Re: 31 bosses in icecrown raid.   08/11/2009 03:41:27 PM PDT
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I am very happy that the 31 bosses was just simple sarcasm. I do not want an instance as large as Ulduar just due to the grind. Being in the same instance for a 25man then again for a 10man is rather boring and the amount of hard modes to clear just made it all feel like a grind. Needless to say, I likely will not be going back to Ulduar 10man once I get my drake in the next few days.
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  • 130. Re: 31 bosses in icecrown raid.   08/11/2009 03:41:57 PM PDT
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Have you ever read the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"? How are we to know when you are telling the truth and when you are not?

[ Post edited by Burningmist ]


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  • 131. Re: 31 bosses in icecrown raid.   08/11/2009 03:43:49 PM PDT
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I put in the Yogg achievement with what I hoped was a ridiculous stand-in number. Clearly it wasn't ridiculous enough because players were variously excited or worried that it was a real number.

Then in an example on how we don't want raids to rotate in tanks, I wanted to pick what I hoped was a ridiculous number so that players wouldn't try and and deduce from my answer how many bosses Icecrown has.

Sadly, my sarcasm doesn't translate well to the forums. :)
Just use the <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags. I don't think they're going to be in HTML until version 15 or so though, so it might be a bit of a wait. ;)
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  • 132. Re: 31 bosses in icecrown raid.   08/11/2009 03:50:01 PM PDT
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Hey GC,

I try to refrain from posting and stuff in topics that concern you, but I just want to point out (as everyone has a tendency to do) something. It's not a good idea for you to be sarcastic on a forum where a lot of the times you do not like to be taken out of context, I.E. When you say things like "nerf to the ground!" or other such scenarios.

The reason for this is because most players look to the devs as a source of information, then getting a view that IC has 31 bosses gets many players hopes up, then have them crashing down when you say things like your joking afterwards, it leads to discredit and not entirely sure if anything you said before was truthful too. How can we know your looking into certain classes, when in the same tone (internet voice) you say IC has 31 bosses, Yogg has 22 min timer, then turn and say "just joking". Whats stopping us to believe that class balances, nerfs, niches for tanks/dps/healers aren't "just joking" responses as well?

This is happening more and more, and we don't know what to believe, thats why many players go out in anger at you all the time, because some people can't believe what you say anymore, or hope to the fact your joking or being sarcastic when your being serious, and vice versa.

Being neutral on a stance, and saying things as they are will benefit you a lot more in my opinion then trying to be sarcastic and playful all the time. It is why many players can't trust what you say and are so easily willing to sacrifice their posting abilities to QQ loudly about their hate and class imbalances, because they lost their faith and trust in the devs and you.

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  • 133. Re: 31 bosses in icecrown raid.   08/11/2009 03:52:16 PM PDT
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Hey GC,

I try to refrain from posting and stuff in topics that concern you, but I just want to point out (as everyone has a tendency to do) something. It's not a good idea for you to be sarcastic on a forum where a lot of the times you do not like to be taken out of context, I.E. When you say things like "nerf to the ground!" or other such scenarios.

The reason for this is because most players look to the devs as a source of information, then getting a view that IC has 31 bosses gets many players hopes up, then have them crashing down when you say things like your joking afterwards, it leads to discredit and not entirely sure if anything you said before was truthful too. How can we know your looking into certain classes, when in the same tone (internet voice) you say IC has 31 bosses, Yogg has 22 min timer, then turn and say "just joking". Whats stopping us to believe that class balances, nerfs, niches for tanks/dps/healers aren't "just joking" responses as well?

This is happening more and more, and we don't know what to believe, thats why many players go out in anger at you all the time, because some people can't believe what you say anymore, or hope to the fact your joking or being sarcastic when your being serious, and vice versa.

Being neutral on a stance, and saying things as they are will benefit you a lot more in my opinion then trying to be sarcastic and playful all the time. It is why many players can't trust what you say and are so easily willing to sacrifice their posting abilities to QQ loudly about their hate and class imbalances, because they lost their faith and trust in the devs and you.


I would have to agree with all of this.

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  • 135. Re: 31 bosses in icecrown raid.   08/11/2009 04:00:45 PM PDT
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I was hoping for some sort of magnum opus 'Black Rock Depth' of raids now that we've got the raid extension feature.
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  • Alexstrasza
  • 136. Re: 31 bosses in icecrown raid.   08/11/2009 04:02:00 PM PDT
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I put in the Yogg achievement with what I hoped was a ridiculous stand-in number. Clearly it wasn't ridiculous enough because players were variously excited or worried that it was a real number.

Then in an example on how we don't want raids to rotate in tanks, I wanted to pick what I hoped was a ridiculous number so that players wouldn't try and and deduce from my answer how many bosses Icecrown has.

Sadly, my sarcasm doesn't translate well to the forums. :)


For once, am sure a lot of people hoped you weren't sarcastic.
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  • Stormreaver
  • 137. Re: 31 bosses in icecrown raid.   08/11/2009 04:13:49 PM PDT
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Sadly, my sarcasm doesn't translate well to the forums. :)


And how long have you been posting on these forums?
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  • 138. Re: 31 bosses in icecrown raid.   08/11/2009 04:14:38 PM PDT
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I know I for one got really excited about Icecrown Citadel having 31 bosses. Seemed like a great way to make Arthas seem more epic and the story that much better. Now know that you were not telling the truth really puts a damper on Icecrown Citadel. All I am hoping for now is that Icecrown has more than 5 bosses.

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  • 139. Re: 31 bosses in icecrown raid.   08/11/2009 04:23:08 PM PDT
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Sadly, my sarcasm doesn't translate well to the forums. :)

Dear GC, i dont give a crap about PvE, and it has been months since the last time i logged in WoW forums, but i must say that you display the learing abilites of a sponge sir.

MANY times you have done silly posts, as a PvPer i know that too well, and THEY NEVER PAN OUT. Please learn that you are not posting as a faceless teenager anymore, you sir are the highest ranked Developer that posts here, what you said is not as much a silly babble but the official Blizz info for the community.

Please, learn to be careful with your post once and for all.

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