Granted, I'll enjoy this if I can get a group. I stopped raiding due to a bunch of jerks and their epeen concerning my brother and raiding. But what about the original 40 man? Is that going bye-bye with the original level 60 loot, and we no longer have the ability to say we soloed Onyxia after 3.2.2 hits? I know it's a bit much to leave in the 40 man much like it was to leave in the original 40-man Naxx, but for those of us that want to go back to experience the raid as it was and complete our T2 sets if we choose, I do request leaving the original instance as is with a new option in the dungeon settings for 40-mans. There are times where I'd rather just go back and solo an old raid by myself without having someone ninja an item I was after. I've gotten ninja'd more times than I care to count over the years.

Also concerning the T2 helms, if the level 60 raid is indeed vanishing with 3.2.2, am I to assume that our T2 helms will no longer be obtainable? If that's the case, is it likely that the new T2 versions will be part of the T2 set so those of us that never got our level 60 T2 helm due to bad RNG can still complete their full set? Not asking for the full set to be upgraded. Just for the set to remain completable.

Speaking of old loot, is Onyxia getting a bag upgrade? Like a 24 slot bag maybe? Or she just getting the mount in place of the bag? And I take it either the mount will be a really rare drop that you'll only see like 2 of on the server (I.E. Al'ar's Ashes and the drakes from Malygos) so you're better off forgetting the mount even exists or is it from yet another hard mode?

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Yes, it will no longer be possible to do the original version of this dungeon.

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But no, seriously, it'd just be okay if all this meant was that 60 Onyxia was a Feat of Strength, but it has farther reaching implications than that.

No more 60 Onyxia means no more Onyxia Scale Cloak which means Nefarian is essentially unkillable for players of the appropriate level. Classic raiding is over.

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ummmm is this a joke....content patch 3.2.2? what....something is not right...

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It's a minor patch with renewed content, therefor content patch.

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For the love of all things holy, they're working on upgrading the server hardware! Quit whining, it takes a while to mess with the raw QUANTITY of computers Blizz must have running this game.

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Is it whining when we can't get and update from them? The "When it's ready" or "Soon" statements may be fine for patches, we can do without them and play the game. When I can't participate in possibly the biggest part of this game that I pay for, that I consider to be a big problem.

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How will this affect the acquisition of the Onyxia Scale Cloak pattern? Without this BWL is essentially impossible, even if you do it with 80s. At level 60, BWL will never be an option and therefore level 60 raiding guilds are essentially boned on content.

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Cleared BWL at 80 multiple times with a handful of people none of which had an ony cloak.

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But no, seriously, it'd just be okay if all this meant was that 60 Onyxia was a Feat of Strength, but it has farther reaching implications than that.

No more 60 Onyxia means no more Onyxia Scale Cloak which means Nefarian is essentially unkillable for players of the appropriate level. Classic raiding is over.

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Or you can just LoS the shadow flame at the beginning of phase 2.

edit- also, great way to derail several hundred raids Blizzard!

...I think I creamed myself..

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This isn't a major content addition. It's a fun treat in celebration of the anniversary. It's intended to be a fun way to relive one bit of Vanilla WoW.

Besides.. I'd be willing to bet that less than 5% of current active players got to experience Onyxia raiding at lvl60, myself included. Sure I've killed her but never at lvl60. I think this is a great thing and should be a lot of fun.

Curious though.. What exactly does Tier2 Deathknight gear look like?

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Fun and Celebration. This is why I hope it's not aimed too high.

And yes, what does Tier2 DK look like??

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Curious though.. What exactly does Tier2 Deathknight gear look like?

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This is a good question haha. Either DKs don't get anything, or they made something special just for you!

The hardmode is she Deep Breathes a lot more, as in every single time.

What about for those of us that still want to get the old tier two helm to complete our set. Will we still be able to do so some way?

Beautiful, and hopefully the Core will follow d=D

Will we actually be able to enter the instance though?

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Yes, it will no longer be possible to do the original version of this dungeon.

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While updating sounds quite awesome I must express my concerns at removing the old content. I hate that old naxx was removed. It had some really cool stuff (ashbringer) that can no longer be obtained and would have been a great training ground @80 to teach all the casual nubs how to do the bosses (Heigan, ugh).

Removing the level 60 version of Onyxia will have an impact on a few things that I would hate to see gone. Namely Quel' Serar and hunter epic questlines along with Eskhander's collar (working on the set with my rogue atm) and perhaps Onyxia Scale Cloaks (need to skin her for mats and turn in her head for recipe). Can you confirm whether or not these things will no longer be obtainable or if there will be a new way to obtain them (Still get ony scales and the recipe, can still forge Quel' Serar, still drops sinew, collar removed from Eskhander set bonus requirements)? I would especially hate not being able to complete the Eskhander set on my rogue ><

Waiting for hogger raid.

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Is it whining when we can't get and update from them? The "When it's ready" or "Soon" statements may be fine for patches, we can do without them and play the game. When I can't participate in possibly the biggest part of this game that I pay for, that I consider to be a big problem.

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Yes, it is whining. You don't need an update. It's going to take some time, but they're working on it. Stop trying to ruin other threads with your impatience.

OMG DOES THIS MEAN I CAN GET LEVEL 80 JUDGEMENT?!!?!?!?!!?!?!

Also, lolfirst.