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  • Whisperwind
  • 0. [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotstreak   08/06/2009 12:06:37 AM PDT
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Was their a Hotfix to change Living Bomb back to pre patch suck?

And by that I mean the ticks No longer proccing hotstreak.

I did test on a empty Heroic dummy, watched 2 Living Bomb crits from ticks go off in a row with no proc.
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  • Khaz'goroth
  • 1. Re: [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotstreak   08/06/2009 12:32:28 AM PDT
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For those who haven't found out (hopefully it is hot fixed soon), the small DoT on Fireball and Frostfire Bolt will reset Hot Streak if the DoT ticks in between two criticals, or if it's allowed to tick at all.

^ Quote from EJ here:
http://elitistjerks.com/f75/t36778-mage_simple_questions_simple_answers/p84/

Hopefully it's fixed soon.

Valoth
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  • Whisperwind
  • 2. Re: [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotstreak   08/06/2009 12:34:43 AM PDT
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^ Quote from EJ here:
http://elitistjerks.com/f75/t36778-mage_simple_questions_simple_answers/p84/

Hopefully it's fixed soon.


It was on a empty dummy, i use glyph of fire ball, was only casting LB to see 2 double crits, and the only other thing on the dummy was ignite : /
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  • Stormreaver
  • 3. Re: [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotstreak   08/06/2009 12:35:39 AM PDT
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Currently living bomb ticks do not proc hot streak...

...but another funny thing is occuring.

Fireball and Frostfire bolt do not reset the hot streak counter, but any other direct damage spell does.

And flamestrike just doesn't proc hot streak either.

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  • 4. Re: [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotst   08/06/2009 01:46:23 AM PDT
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Ok to clarify the problem:

Living Bombs periodical ticks that crit are acting as they did pre-patch, even though they are now supposed to be proccing Hot Streak, they do not have any effect on Hot Streak. The explosion still counts though.

The odd behavior of the Fireball, and Frostfire Bolt dots reseting Hot Streak counter is no longer present.

Living Bomb Explosion Crit, Fireball No Crit, Fireball Crit IS proccing Hot Streak.
Living Bomb Explosion Crit, Living Bomb Explosion NO Crit, Living Bomb Explosion Crit is NOT proccing Hot Streak.
Fireball Crit, Fireball No Crit, Fireball Crit however IS proccing Hot streak.
Frostfire Bolt Crit, Frostfire Bolt no Crit, Frostfire Bolt Crit is proccing Hot Streak.
Scorch Crit, Scorch No Crit, Scorch Crit is NOT proccing Hot Streak.
Scorch Crit, Fireball No Crit, Fireblast Crit is proccing Hot Streak.
Fireblast Cri, Fireblast No Crit, Fireblast Crit, is NOT proccing Hot Streak.

Basically as it stands, this IS a dps boost for Fire spec based mages. What this is not, is the equalizer on dps for us. We are still below many other classes on DPS even with this 'buff'.

While this is surely off behavior, there is no way this can be considered 'Working as Intended'

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  • 5. Re: [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotst   08/06/2009 02:27:14 AM PDT
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Let's keep this at the top!

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  • Whisperwind
  • 6. Re: [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotst   08/06/2009 02:28:48 AM PDT
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Q u o t e:
Ok to clarify the problem:

Living Bombs periodical ticks that crit are acting as they did pre-patch, even though they are now supposed to be proccing Hot Streak, they do not have any effect on Hot Streak. The explosion still counts though.

The odd behavior of the Fireball, and Frostfire Bolt dots reseting Hot Streak counter is no longer present.

Living Bomb Explosion Crit, Fireball No Crit, Fireball Crit IS proccing Hot Streak.
Living Bomb Explosion Crit, Living Bomb Explosion NO Crit, Living Bomb Explosion Crit is NOT proccing Hot Streak.
Fireball Crit, Fireball No Crit, Fireball Crit however IS proccing Hot streak.
Frostfire Bolt Crit, Frostfire Bolt no Crit, Frostfire Bolt Crit is proccing Hot Streak.
Scorch Crit, Scorch No Crit, Scorch Crit is NOT proccing Hot Streak.
Scorch Crit, Fireball No Crit, Fireblast Crit is proccing Hot Streak.
Fireblast Cri, Fireblast No Crit, Fireblast Crit, is NOT proccing Hot Streak.

Basically as it stands, this IS a dps boost for Fire spec based mages. What this is not, is the equalizer on dps for us. We are still below many other classes on DPS even with this 'buff'.

While this is surely off behavior, there is no way this can be considered 'Working as Intended'


Waiting for a Blue to post about this....Random HS's are fine, but jesus..make it work right.
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  • Whisperwind
  • 8. Re: [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotst   08/06/2009 05:04:30 AM PDT
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Bump cause I can
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  • 9. Re: [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotstreak   08/06/2009 06:14:15 AM PDT
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I have done testing before todays early morning maintenance to verify everything said in this thread. There are even posts saying the same thing is still currently happening.

We need answers as to what our LB spell is suppose to be like.

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  • Whisperwind
  • 10. Re: [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotstreak   08/06/2009 06:21:15 AM PDT
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Main is done on my server, checking for all my fire bros out there.

Apprently it WASNT fixed, therefore, LB is working as intended...

Edit: I take back my last statement

Screw mages in general at this point. Give us sometime amazing finally after what looked like was gonna be a dismal patch, and then take it away.

[ Post edited by Fatti ]

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  • Whisperwind
  • 11. Re: [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotstreak   08/06/2009 07:01:45 AM PDT
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Directly from the patch notes, I bring you...Blizzard, The Mage's Bane.

"Living Bomb: Periodic critical strikes from this ability can now trigger Ignite and Hot Streak. "

Day 1- Working

Day 2- Bugged/Hotfixed to no longer work

/end

ENCORE ENCORE
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  • Sen'jin
  • 12. Re: [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotstreak   08/06/2009 07:17:40 AM PDT
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Here's a combat log parse from the evening of 8/5/09 US-Senjin. Hope this helps in sorting this out.

http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/eventfilter/6554641/1249476277000/1249476857000/0x0300000001B71B7E/0/0/nil

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  • Whisperwind
  • 13. Re: [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotstreak   08/06/2009 07:29:47 AM PDT
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Here's a combat log parse from the evening of 8/5/09 US-Senjin. Hope this helps in sorting this out.

http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/eventfilter/6554641/1249476277000/1249476857000/0x0300000001B71B7E/0/0/nil




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  • Khaz Modan
  • 14. Re: [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotstreak   08/06/2009 07:49:40 AM PDT
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I sorely hope this is a bug and not an intentional and unspoken removal of something that was promised to us. For reals. =(

Blue post sorting this out would be appreciated.
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  • 15. Re: [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotstreak   08/06/2009 08:13:47 AM PDT
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bumpity cause im pised my dmg has somewhat falling, not gettin hotstreak for like 40seconds of the fight, while my crits are flying around
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  • 16. Re: [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotstreak   08/06/2009 08:31:23 AM PDT
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Any blue response to any of the posts across the various forum posts discussing this?
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  • Sisters of Elune
  • 17. Re: [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotstreak   08/06/2009 08:43:28 AM PDT
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Directly from the patch notes, I bring you...Blizzard, The Mage's Bane.

"Living Bomb: Periodic critical strikes from this ability can now trigger Ignite and Hot Streak. "

Day 1- Working

Day 2- Bugged/Hotfixed to no longer work

/end

ENCORE ENCORE


This has to be a stealth nerf. Same with Conflagrate a while back, it was only 1 day of fun. My day in the sun clearing out Drek's room is over. I should have frapsed those AVs. Oh well.
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  • Burning Blade
  • 18. Re: [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotstreak   08/06/2009 09:04:06 AM PDT
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This has to be a stealth nerf. Same with Conflagrate a while back, it was only 1 day of fun. My day in the sun clearing out Drek's room is over. I should have frapsed those AVs. Oh well.


if you got targetted by any of those players for more than 2 seconds you'd be dead.

I would really like to get a blue response just to know the intended direction of hs/living bomb. I really liked the changes and hope they haven't been reverted intentionally.
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  • 19. Re: [Bug]Living Bomb no longer proccing Hotstreak   08/06/2009 09:12:13 AM PDT
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Also gettin crits and HS is the only way us fire mages can compete with the other crazy high dmg classes. Take away that, and fire mages will hence die. IMO just revert us back to pre 3.2.....i could pull big numbers, compete with everyone in my raid, and was VERY happy. If there gonna make it that LB crits proc HS, it means were gonna be gettin alot of HS. Maybe blizz just decided it was too much and broke it that its only a chance of working, not a 100% chance?
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