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Crygil you are taking us serious it seems... thank you /tilts hat

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agreed

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Note that I'm only asking a few questions. This will not be a complete restructuring of this Q&A. However, this will not be the "one and only" Q&A we are doing. We fully intend to make the Q&A's a fairly regular occurrence. So, if you weren't satisfied with this particular session, don't fret, we're going to do more.

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I appreciate the honesty, Crygil. This Q&A session was mostly frustrating to many of us, myself included, and probably was seen more as a slap in the face. It's hard for long-time warriors such as myself to look at the Q&A and not basically read it as "warriors are fine, l2p" especially in light of other recent comments about taking population into account while balancing Protection Warriors

I hope we can get some reasonable solutions to our problems, the foremost of which I'd like addressed as a tank is Heroic Strike spam.

Cooldown inequality would be second, as I don't quite understand why we have to use not only two talent points but two major glyph slots to have competitive cooldowns with other classes.

Because charge is only available to Battle Stance doesn't build much rage without the upgrade and the talent Intensify Rage, how will other Stances generate rage quicker? Obviously, rage translates to damage which translates to DPS for Fury/Arms and Threat for Protection. However, it's really hard to gain and maintain rage in the beginning and sometimes for ALL trees in general. Therefore, something must be done to the rotations and the skills. Perhaps with the addition of new talents or introduction of new skills, this problem can finally come to a rest. However, addressing the issue with our horrible talents and their uses is also necessary. The same goes for AoE threat generation for Protection tree. I know warriors are not the only class you must focus your attention on, but you must focus the most on them for they are the most unpopular class to play at the moment. The reasons listed above will answer the question as to why they are considered no fun to play.

honestly i had 4 questions and this was terribly asked

1. prot pvp, will there ever be a reason for it?
2. warrior aoe threat, will it get a buff?
3. why are warrior shouts 3 mins when pally 30 min buffs give the same effect?
4. what is the resistance to making arms pvp spec and fury pve spec?

-asking a question about arms tanking is just so silly.
-who cares about tank damage if the threat abilities give enough threat (i.e. scale with gear)
-glad to hear u guys are trying to find the solution to the problem with great prot gear being terrible for low lvl fights
-sad to hear that you guys think there is a problem with offtanks getting 100 rage before adds come, i mean seriously max rage is 100 so who doesn't have that when adds come?
-also sad to see u guys are trying to completely overhaul what could be fixed with a few talent/ablity fixes
-also sad to see you guys completely miss the mark on stance changing, completely, totally, completely. Swap to spell reflect? then make it so you have enough rage in swapping to cast spell reflect without having to burn 3 talent points. Make anger management standard without talents.

ugh, block is a problem? freaking remove it, make block reduce overall damage taken, easy that way you don't have to worry about all this warrior/paladin not taking damage. Want str to matter? that change makes str matter because it becomes avoidance vs. actual damage reduction.

simple things, u guys overthinking

Want to get some feed back on this. What if juggernaut was reworked to when u charged a target ull ignore its armor for 3 hits or whatever is balanced. Cause at higher resil the crit on that talent is rly pointless. Plus it would make us more usefull against heavier armored classes, while at the same time not increasing the dmg on lightly armored class by that much, who are apparently the ones that we put the most pressure on in pvp.

I like Crygil. Not solely because of this thread, but I find he has the most likeable attitude out of the Blue posters. He's a hundred times cooler than Bornakk.

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I have only one lvl 80 toon and its a warrior. I have been playing now for about 5 years, and this post is horrible. Sorry, but its true.

The questions that needed to be answered were not, and the questions that were answered were aleready known. How does that make any sence?

Why in one blue post does it say that arms and fury DPS is low and needs to be looked at, and in this post we get its ok deal with it. My gear is not BiS, but is not bad. I understand that pure dps classes like Locks, Rogues, hunters and mages should out DPS us, but we should be on par with Rets, Ferals/Boomkins, DKs, and shammys. We are not unless we are in the BiS gear. I was in a raid with a Priest in healing gear that just duel speced over to shadow and pulled 4k DPS without switching any gear I was at 3.5k, and we are fine....... Right?

Questions we need answered IMO:
- Why are we owned by almost every other class one on one in PVP atm? I understand that we were OP in the past, but now it is no longer the case by a landslide. We have to get the drop on our target and get lucky with random procs with our talents.
- Why is our DPS in arms and fury not anywhere near other Hybrid classes with comparible gear?
- What are you doing to fix the random proc rate of skills like SD and TFB.
- What are you going to do with 2H sword and hammer talents?
- When are you going to fix stance problems?
- When are you going to fix rage mechanics? We understand that the last 2 questions are not where you want them to be, but just stating that you are looking at them is not a good answer. you have been saying this for a very long time.
- Why take a warrior tank when a almost every other class that can tank is easier to do so on most bosses in new content?

Pls give us real answers to questions that we wanted answering. These were just a few question that I would like to see.

Thanks

Warriros are considered Two Role Hybrids (classes that can fill two roles) including warriors, DK's, shamans, etc., why do warriors deal the least damage and lower damaged compared to Three Role Hybrids (classes that can fill three roles) such as Retribution Paladin, Feral Druids because of our gear-dependancy? Also, it depresses me that Death Knights do much more DPS than warriors who are equally-geared and warriors, if anything, should be doing the same DPS. Also, why are other tanks (Paladin, Death Knight, Druid) picked over warriors? We should be on par with the other hybrids. If you were to make another class, make it a pure tank class... unless you were planning on making warrior/DK/Paladin into one.. The issue of gear-dependancy is of urgent concern of the warriors and must be addressed/changed.

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I like Crygil. Not solely because of this thread, but I find he has the most likeable attitude out of the Blue posters. He's a hundred times cooler than Bornakk.

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It's called "Professionalism."

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Note that I'm only asking a few questions. This will not be a complete restructuring of this Q&A. However, this will not be the "one and only" Q&A we are doing. We fully intend to make the Q&A's a fairly regular occurrence. So, if you weren't satisfied with this particular session, don't fret, we're going to do more.

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Is it gonna take till 3.3 to fix the warrior? I am concerned it might take until the last content patch of the expansion to enjoy playing my warrior again.

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Because I only pop Berserker Rage once in aw hile right? No, I try and weave it in my rotation whenever my rage is 40<. Also, my MH swings are usually heroic strikes, so I'm getting most of my rage from my offhand.

Get your information correctly please.

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I've sh1t on you because you're a leet-iot but you're correct here, and presumably in general dps discussions.

you're still an a&&hole though

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This was a good Q&A I hope it's not just another lie like our class description on the official page.

Things I agreed with:

-Not making each tree pigeonholed for one role
-Making Warriors DPS/Tank Hybrid
-Not restricting mainhand and off-hand setup on what tree you went down (Ex. 2h for Arms, dw for Fury, sword/board for prot)
-Warriors not doing as much damage for PvP

It still feels like a lot of fluff though, if they are concerned about this, why haven't they taken action yet?

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I'd like to know what they're going to do about rage loss from resilliance next patch.

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I got to admit. I think Blizzard asks their own questions and than answers them.. Cuz I sure as hell didnt ask any of those questions.

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This was spot on.

Here's my question-

Q: How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?

A: 47853485789347584758575875845748734854547854785485437854857

I think my question and answering was much better than Blizzard's.

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Why not have both? Bring quality players who play their class well, make sure you have all buffs necessary for a fight, recipe for win right there.

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I've shifted focus on you. This is a 'blue' response. Given that you are the only dissenting opinion in all of the posts in 15 pages I'm drawing a new conclusion about you.