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I just wanna know what happened to bring the player not the character.

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when they said oh you need to bring a healer to be effective

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I love how even in our warrior Q&A they decide to respond to a PALLY issue but won't comment on the fact that their Q&A answered very little WARRIOR concerns.

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Q: Sword spec is bad, really bad any chance you might fix that?

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Q: Sword spec is bad, really bad any chance you might fix that?

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A: Do not worry, paladin rotation will be changed.


In case you consider this trolling, I consider that pally reply in this massive Warrior threat way way off the target.

Anyways, brb, have to buy a new keyboard I broke the HS button again.

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Q: Sword spec is bad, really bad any chance you might fix that?

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Predicted Blue response:
While Maces are the predominantly use weapon for paladins as a whole, we are looking at making a change to the Paladin Retribution spec to make this weapon type more desirable.

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Sure, we are not happy with Retribution damage rotation. Don't expect it to stay as minimal as it is now, we've expressed this before. Some changes are coming in 3.2 and I would expect that there may be more changes down the line.

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And a big deal was made that the rotation would be changing in 3.2. It really didn't. 4 sec to 6 sec crusader strike doesn't change it. Exorcism being situational means "the situation comes up every 15 seconds, so it's not really a situation." I have to press CS more. I press Exorcism when my AoW lights up. It's still FCFS.

It's just frustrating that we're gonna be changed in another future patch. Yeah, sure, the game is always changing. But I'd like to go one major content patch without having to rework the numbers, rework the keybinds, rework the addons, rework the rotation, wonder how it will affect me in PVP, wnder if they'll fix pvp issues in time to be viable for a season, wonder if the current gear I have will still be BIS because of new talents or mechanics.

Fix Ret. Get it over with. Let me play the game. Dragging it out is *really* frustrating.

Got to love reading this stuff

#1 all problems blizzard thinks needs to be fixed wont be fixed until the next expansion at earliest.

#2 all problems that have plagued the class for the last 4 years like rage/stance is Ok in the devs eye's

#3 blizzard is happy with warriors doing less dps than all the other hybrids until we outgear them

#4 warriors were designed to be more complex and aggrivating and will stay that way because blizzard love stances

#5 warriors will never be able to put out short term burst like the other hybrids because we have unlimited resources to compensate so in pvp we need more survivability or health ... will we get it ? probably not,

#6
Subpar damage on short fights
Subpar damage on moving targets


#7
Not enough offensive/defensive abilities as dps/tank so Heroic Strike is our go to ability blizzard does not like it so the ability will most likely be a total joke next expansion and the implemented option B will be far inferior ( just going by blizzards track record when it comes to such things)

#8 Healers dont want warriors for arena partners
*Were harder to keep alive than our counterparts
*We have no short term burst
*We can not activate our Oh crap buttons nearly as quickly as our counterparts due to stance/shield requirements.
* we have no form of instant heal like our counterparts but instead we have 2 hots Second wind/ frenzied regen

Simply put warriors are upset because it takes us 3 times as much effort/time to do what our counterparts do with 1 keypress instantly (and this go's for both pvp/pve)

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And a big deal was made that the rotation would be changing in 3.2. It really didn't. 4 sec to 6 sec crusader strike doesn't change it. Exorcism being situational means "the situation comes up every 15 seconds, so it's not really a situation." I have to press CS more. I press Exorcism when my AoW lights up. It's still FCFS.

It's just frustrating that we're gonna be changed in another future patch. Yeah, sure, the game is always changing. But I'd like to go one major content patch without having to rework the numbers, rework the keybinds, rework the addons, rework the rotation, wonder how it will affect me in PVP, wnder if they'll fix pvp issues in time to be viable for a season, wonder if the current gear I have will still be BIS because of new talents or mechanics.

Fix Ret. Get it over with. Let me play the game. Dragging it out is *really* frustrating.

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How about you post this in the pally forums? I believe we have far more problems than just a simple rotation

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Stop it, this is not about ret. Stop posting about RET in the WARRIOR Q&A.

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Because everyone is in the same boat.

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And a big deal was made that the rotation would be changing in 3.2. It really didn't. 4 sec to 6 sec crusader strike doesn't change it. Exorcism being situational means "the situation comes up every 15 seconds, so it's not really a situation." I have to press CS more. I press Exorcism when my AoW lights up. It's still FCFS.

It's just frustrating that we're gonna be changed in another future patch. Yeah, sure, the game is always changing. But I'd like to go one major content patch without having to rework the numbers, rework the keybinds, rework the addons, rework the rotation, wonder how it will affect me in PVP, wnder if they'll fix pvp issues in time to be viable for a season, wonder if the current gear I have will still be BIS because of new talents or mechanics.

Fix Ret. Get it over with. Let me play the game. Dragging it out is *really* frustrating.

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If this post is not deleted by a Blue then that will answer the first question every warrior has. "Does Blizzard hate warriors?" And I say yes.

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We're working on getting some more of the Warrior questions answered as we speak. Unfortunatley, it just takes more time to broach some of the more complicated questions that the Warriors are presenting.

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Im not trying to be rude, but we've asking questions for 2 months, 60+ pages worth. We get very little contact from blues in this forum. The questions answered in the Q&A seemed to avoid some pressing issues, and I don't think a whole class of players should have to wait until the final content patch(3.3 if we get anything) to be fixed.

|There is a desire among some players and designers to see Arms tank with a two-hander while Prot tanks with a shield. We’re still not sure that’s the direction we’ll go -- it’s a ton of re-design and will never work for say the druid or paladin classes.|

-WHY should they (or even care to) be able to tank in any tree? They can heal, we have two DPS specs and a tanking spec! How about you give the warriors (let me use your words her blizz) THE TANK of old game another interesting choice for tanking instead of relegating us to being the worst tanks in the WotLK.

|We try to no longer play favorites here. Warrior damage should look like that of Feral druids, Enhancement shamans, Retribution paladins, and death knights. If their damage isn’t at that level, then it’s possible our numbers need some tweaking. However don’t always assume that you can’t possibly improve your gear or your button mashing either. =) Also remember that some fights just favor one class or spec over another. We’re totally cool with that, so long as it isn’t always the same exact class or spec that gets to shine.|

-Cause DK's don't get to shine in every tanking situation? And just because you no longer favor warriors doesn't mean that you aren't playing favorites with other classes just so you know.

|The shouts are supposed to be buttons that warriors push in combat. They aren’t intended to be pre-fight buffs like Arcane Intellect or Prayer of Fortitude. We had a discussion about this recently and decided with glyphs and talents that the duration isn’t a problem. If you lack Booming Voice and the minor Battle Shout glyph, it might be more annoying.|

-I'm fine with having to push a button every two minutes to buff my allies. What I have a problem with is when they tell me not to do it cause another class has a buff that doesn't stack with mine and theirs is stronger and lasts longer then it just feels like I can't use a tool cause another class does it better.

|Warriors now share tanking responsibilities with three other classes, which can feel psychologically like a diminishment in role.|

-No what feels like a diminished role is when we get out CLASSED (not skilled) by another tank. THAT feels like a diminishment.

| In Ulduar, we think warrior tank balance is about where it should be -- death knights were a little ahead, paladins were a little behind, and druids were about even with warriors. |

-I have had threat pulled off of me by all those classes constantly and I am in full valor, hit capped, and know how to play my class.

|too many players still view the primary role of the tank to stack avoidance and mitigation and then complain when their threat is low because they avoided all dps stats.|

-FFS you idiots are driving me crazy! We HAVE to stack avoidance! Why? Because:

| Shield Block Value just isn’t a strong mitigation stat these days. However, the amount it would need to be increased is enormous in order to make a difference vs. bosses that can hit for 40K.|

Lately I have been wondering why I keep paying you people.

The Q&A was fine, you guys have too much expectation. Good to know that they gonna unbloat Arms and Fury trees, about time!

all this post needed to say to make me happy was....

we're increasing warriors damage to match a DKs in BGs/arena and also the talent that boosts shout durations/range in fury now also helps piercing howl.....or warriors get chains of ice :P

basically, we all shoulda just re-rolled DKs when WOTLK came out