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Jindar

< Saevio de Tempestas >

Kirin Tor

40. Re: Flying at 60? Why not Heirloom? 07/09/2009 09:26:33 AM PDT

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That's for after Blizzcon.

...scarily, you might be right. between stuff like this and paid faction (and eventually race as well, most likely) changes, they might as well eliminate the Character Create screen and just go to a "pick and buy" page on the website when you hit the button, as no choice you make will have any real meaning.

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Rizz

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Cenarion Circle

41. Re: Flying at 60? Why not Heirloom? 07/09/2009 09:28:02 AM PDT

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You are seriously calling riding around outlands on a ground mount for 10 levels an accomplishment? What if they put up a in-game monument to those who did it without flying at 60?

If it's a statue of an Orc doing the /chicken animation, then I'm all for it.

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Lothar

43. Re: Flying at 60? Why not Heirloom? 07/09/2009 09:40:58 AM PDT

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Yes I think there is validity in respecting the accomplishments of the player base.

Then find some way for them to "respect your accomplishment" that doesn't involve inflicting unpleasantness on new customers. That's what this boils down to. They're making things easier for people who aren't you, and there's no good reason for you to oppose it.

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Kaganfindel
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Lothar

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Haomarush

44. Re: Flying at 60? Why not Heirloom? 07/09/2009 09:52:58 AM PDT

So people who just got the game have to ride on ground mounts while most of the people around them will be flying mounts? That will just piss new players off and most likely drive them away.

3.0 is not balanced for level 70

or 80

Darkfrazzle

< PIE >

Dalaran

45. Re: Flying at 60? Why not Heirloom? 07/09/2009 09:59:00 AM PDT

Wow. I never thought this troll thread had any legs but I guess I was wrong.

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Bornakk

Blizzard Poster

46. Re: Flying at 60? Why not Heirloom? 07/09/2009 10:03:00 AM PDT

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As with cold weather flying. Making a flight book for Level 60 an heirloom item would allow experienced players to ease the level grind without deteriorating or abbreviating the experience for new players.

Opinions?

Just to clarify some things. The cold weather flying heirloom planned for patch 3.2 allows players who have gone through the challenges of Northrend to have an easier time with their following character(s).

We are also making the following change that is on the PTR patch notes already:

Expert Riding (Skill 225): Can now be learned at level 60 for 600 gold from trainers in Honor Hold or Thrallmar. Faction discounts now apply (Honor Hold for Alliance; Thrallmar for Horde). Flight speed at this skill level has been increased to 150% of run speed, up from 60%.

So now all players regardless of what they have done will be able to fly from the beginning in Outland (assuming they have the gold) and make that part of the leveling process go smoother as well.

Having covered those two points, is there anything I'm missing and you are still wanting to be changed/added?

Rizz

< The Dragonslayer >

Cenarion Circle

47. Re: Flying at 60? Why not Heirloom? 07/09/2009 10:06:14 AM PDT

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Having covered those two points, is there anything I'm missing and you are still wanting to be changed/added?

Will you be adding a monument to those of us that leveled through Burning Crusade with no flight powers at all?

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Haruto

< Cyrion Empire >

Twisting Nether

48. Re: Flying at 60? Why not Heirloom? 07/09/2009 10:08:51 AM PDT

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Just to clarify some things. The cold weather flying heirloom planned for patch 3.2 allows players who have gone through the challenges of Northrend to have an easier time with their following character(s).

We are also making the following change that is on the PTR patch notes already:
Expert Riding (Skill 225): Can now be learned at level 60 for 600 gold from trainers in Honor Hold or Thrallmar. Faction discounts now apply (Honor Hold for Alliance; Thrallmar for Horde). Flight speed at this skill level has been increased to 150% of run speed, up from 60%.

So now all players regardless of what they have done will be able to fly from the beginning in Outland (assuming they have the gold) and make that part of the leveling process go smoother as well.

Having covered those two points, is there anything I'm missing and you are still wanting to be changed/added?

Are there any other heirloom changes coming such as mounts?

Hellschicken

< I See Dead Gnomes >

Bloodscalp

49. Re: Flying at 60? Why not Heirloom? 07/09/2009 10:11:40 AM PDT

Hmm.. the note says 150% OF run speed. Most mounts show their percentage as a boost OVER run speed. For instance, the normal ground mount is a 60% boost (you go 60% faster than run speed). If it was 60% OF run speed, you would be going 40% slower while mounted than you would if you just ran.

Blizz, can you please confirm? By 150%, do you really mean OF run speed (ie. the mount will be 50% faster than running speed), or do you mean an additional150% (meaning the actual multiplier is 2.5x, where x is run speed)?

Shakha

Khaz'goroth

50. Re: Flying at 60? Why not Heirloom? 07/09/2009 10:16:31 AM PDT

Q u o t e:

Just to clarify some things. The cold weather flying heirloom planned for patch 3.2 allows players who have gone through the challenges of Northrend to have an easier time with their following character(s).

We are also making the following change that is on the PTR patch notes already:
Expert Riding (Skill 225): Can now be learned at level 60 for 600 gold from trainers in Honor Hold or Thrallmar. Faction discounts now apply (Honor Hold for Alliance; Thrallmar for Horde). Flight speed at this skill level has been increased to 150% of run speed, up from 60%.

So now all players regardless of what they have done will be able to fly from the beginning in Outland (assuming they have the gold) and make that part of the leveling process go smoother as well.

Having covered those two points, is there anything I'm missing and you are still wanting to be changed/added?

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Kaspian

Madoran

51. Re: Flying at 60? Why not Heirloom? 07/09/2009 10:18:54 AM PDT

Q u o t e:

Just to clarify some things. The cold weather flying heirloom planned for patch 3.2 allows players who have gone through the challenges of Northrend to have an easier time with their following character(s).

We are also making the following change that is on the PTR patch notes already:
Expert Riding (Skill 225): Can now be learned at level 60 for 600 gold from trainers in Honor Hold or Thrallmar. Faction discounts now apply (Honor Hold for Alliance; Thrallmar for Horde). Flight speed at this skill level has been increased to 150% of run speed, up from 60%.

So now all players regardless of what they have done will be able to fly from the beginning in Outland (assuming they have the gold) and make that part of the leveling process go smoother as well.

Having covered those two points, is there anything I'm missing and you are still wanting to be changed/added?

I have yet to see any comments about how Death Knight travel will be addressed. Originally DKs could buy (at L70) a flying mount that scales with skill. The purchase price of that mount was ~950 gold plus the flying skill level skill. Is the cost of the DK flying mount which will now be available at L60 going to be scaled back also, or will it remain at the original price? Thanks.

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Bornakk

Blizzard Poster

52. Re: Flying at 60? Why not Heirloom? 07/09/2009 10:28:06 AM PDT

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Will you be adding a monument to those of us that leveled through Burning Crusade with no flight powers at all?

The "monument" is the shattered sun statue and title you can buy there.

Bornakk

Blizzard Poster

53. Re: Flying at 60? Why not Heirloom? 07/09/2009 10:29:30 AM PDT

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Hmm.. the note says 150% OF run speed. Most mounts show their percentage as a boost OVER run speed. For instance, the normal ground mount is a 60% boost (you go 60% faster than run speed). If it was 60% OF run speed, you would be going 40% slower while mounted than you would if you just ran.

Blizz, can you please confirm? By 150%, do you really mean OF run speed (ie. the mount will be 50% faster than running speed), or do you mean an additional150% (meaning the actual multiplier is 2.5x, where x is run speed)?

It's the same way it currently works with all mounts.

Adrìc

Ysera

54. Re: Flying at 60? Why not Heirloom? 07/09/2009 10:34:35 AM PDT

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Hmm.. the note says 150% OF run speed. Most mounts show their percentage as a boost OVER run speed. For instance, the normal ground mount is a 60% boost (you go 60% faster than run speed). If it was 60% OF run speed, you would be going 40% slower while mounted than you would if you just ran.

Blizz, can you please confirm? By 150%, do you really mean OF run speed (ie. the mount will be 50% faster than running speed), or do you mean an additional150% (meaning the actual multiplier is 2.5x, where x is run speed)?

freal?

Rizz

< The Dragonslayer >

Cenarion Circle

55. Re: Flying at 60? Why not Heirloom? 07/09/2009 10:35:07 AM PDT

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The "monument" is the shattered sun statue and title you can buy there.

Not a statue of an Orc doing the chicken emote?

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Reddrake

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Medivh

56. Re: Flying at 60? Why not Heirloom? 07/09/2009 10:35:55 AM PDT

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Having covered those two points, is there anything I'm missing and you are still wanting to be changed/added?

Please add the tamable beast class worgen into this patch amendment.

Adrìc

Ysera

58. Re: Flying at 60? Why not Heirloom? 07/09/2009 10:37:43 AM PDT

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The "monument" is the shattered sun statue and title you can buy there.

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