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  • 0. GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 06:45:32 PM PDT
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Mr. Street,

Ever play a caster or healer that has mainly casted spells to get a heal or spell off? I doubt you have.

Prot Paladins in Holy Gear are absurd. I get hit with Avengers shield and I am silenced. After that I get hammered full duration for 6 seconds because I end up grounding damage like Chaos Bolt etc...

Why is this even allowed? 20 second hammer of justices, 6k avengers shields (non mitigated) with a silence tacked onto it which adds a daze effect as well, and absurd amounts of healing.

I Dont give a crap how gimp of a spec the healing can be for paladins because of the lack of Holy Shock but In the time I am silenced and Eating a hammer of justice in a BG I cant even survive with 1 dps casting or hitting me.

Something that should be taken out from Guarded by the Light is the ability for healing crit bonus from the talent. That way you have protection paladins able to "PVP" and have holy paladins go back to a favorable holy spec.

Regards,

Aki

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  • 1. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 06:59:38 PM PDT
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Mr. Street,

Ever play a caster or healer that has mainly casted spells to get a heal or spell off? I doubt you have.

Prot Paladins in Holy Gear are absurd. I get hit with Avengers shield and I am silenced. After that I get hammered full duration for 6 seconds because I end up grounding damage like Chaos Bolt etc...

Why is this even allowed? 20 second hammer of justices, 6k avengers shields (non mitigated) with a silence tacked onto it which adds a daze effect as well, and absurd amounts of healing.

I Dont give a crap how gimp of a spec the healing can be for paladins because of the lack of Holy Shock but In the time I am silenced and Eating a hammer of justice in a BG I cant even survive with 1 dps casting or hitting me.

Something that should be taken out from Guarded by the Light is the ability for healing crit bonus from the talent. That way you have protection paladins able to "PVP" and have holy paladins go back to a favorable holy spec.

Regards,

Aki




Mr./Miss/Mrs. Akisama

Ever play a paladin healer that has mainly casted spells to get a heal or spell off? I doubt you have.

Resto shamans with offensive spells are absurd. I get hit with purge and I lose all my buffs. After that I get hexed full duration for 6 seconds because I end up silenced/interrupted/sheeped by various spells like Polymorph etc...

Why is this even allowed? 6 Hexes where it doesn't break immediately on damage, 7k unmitigated lava bursts with a DoT tacked onto it which adds a to the lava burst effect as well, and absurd amounts of healing.

I don't give a crap how gimp of a spec the healing can be for shamans because of the lack of shaman mitigation but In the time I am hexed and eating purge in a BG I can't even survive with 1 dps casting or hitting me.

Something that should be taken out from shamans is the ability for healing to be viable because your complaint is just as valid. That way you have resto shamans able to "PVP" as their DPS speccs and go back to what they want to do: DPS.


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TO THE GROUND BABY!
-Ghostcrawler on how they will nerf Paladins in every single patch.
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  • 2. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 07:07:37 PM PDT
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Mr./Miss/Mrs. Akisama

Ever play a paladin healer that has mainly casted spells to get a heal or spell off? I doubt you have.

Resto shamans with offensive spells are absurd. I get hit with purge and I lose all my buffs. After that I get hexed full duration for 6 seconds because I end up silenced/interrupted/sheeped by various spells like Polymorph etc...

Why is this even allowed? 6 Hexes where it doesn't break immediately on damage, 7k unmitigated lava bursts with a DoT tacked onto it which adds a to the lava burst effect as well, and absurd amounts of healing.

I don't give a crap how gimp of a spec the healing can be for shamans because of the lack of shaman mitigation but In the time I am hexed and eating purge in a BG I can't even survive with 1 dps casting or hitting me.

Something that should be taken out from shamans is the ability for healing to be viable because your complaint is just as valid. That way you have resto shamans able to "PVP" as their DPS speccs and go back to what they want to do: DPS.


Since when did resto shamans ever hurl 7k lava bursts? Since when could I hex 6 times? It h as a 45s CD. If you're talking about elemental shamans, well when im elemental I can crit for 10k on low resil targets but guess what! I dont have crazy healing like a protection paladin does! My LHWs dont even allow me to survive an attack.
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  • 3. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 07:23:31 PM PDT
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This is fairly comical, considering that resto shaman / anything should always beat prot paladins in 2v2.

My 3.2 Paladin healing UI: http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h314/kaikulu/FoLui.jpg
http://www.saga-guild.org
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Haomarush&n=Eloderina (former main)
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  • 4. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 07:40:38 PM PDT
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This is fairly comical, considering that resto shaman / anything should always beat prot paladins in 2v2.


How so? Explain plz
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  • 5. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 08:00:22 PM PDT
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I was quoting your post and making fun of you being terrible, and the 6 Hex thing was supposed to be seconds not just hexes...

but yeah you shouldn't have any problem against a paladin...l2 wind shock and yes a resto shaman can hit pretty hard with lava burst sorry to burst your bubble.

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TO THE GROUND BABY!
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  • 6. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 08:06:26 PM PDT
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I was quoting your post and making fun of you being terrible, and the 6 Hex thing was supposed to be seconds not just hexes...

but yeah you shouldn't have any problem against a paladin...l2 wind shock and yes a resto shaman can hit pretty hard with lava burst sorry to burst your bubble.

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LOL Win, a #@#@ 1250 rated Paladin like yourself calling another player bad.

edit: Wait, with 102 games played? Wow, you're even worse upon 2nd inspection. No more commenting on PVP plz, you're worse than Lolflay.

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  • 7. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 08:12:34 PM PDT
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LOL Win, a #@#@ 1250 rated Paladin like yourself calling another player bad.

edit: Wait, with 102 games played? Wow, you're even worse upon 2nd inspection. No more commenting on PVP plz, you're worse than Lolflay.


LOL WIN A LVL 11 ALT POSTING ON MY RECENT ACTUAL TRYING IN ARENA LOLOLOLOL UR SO GEWD TO HIDE BEHIND YOUR ALT.

But srsly, I take raiding more serious and only got to 1250 so I could get the libram for next patch, but that gives me no right to say anything about paladins in arena. Gotcha.

fail troll is fail


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  • 8. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 08:12:49 PM PDT
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I was quoting your post and making fun of you being terrible, and the 6 Hex thing was supposed to be seconds not just hexes...

but yeah you shouldn't have any problem against a paladin...l2 wind shock and yes a resto shaman can hit pretty hard with lava burst sorry to burst your bubble.

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U were trying a bit too hard there, which make u look kinda silly ;)


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6 hexes

Anyone can tell you had no idea that hex has a CD, but that's alright since you've never played a shammy, obviously.

Also I wouldn't call a 2-3k lava burst "hard".
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  • 9. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 08:14:34 PM PDT
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How so? Explain plz


6s interrupt v. 2.5s base cast heal. Interrupt toward the end of a cast to control them best.

Purge > Flash of Light spam (FoL spam requires Sacred Shield to keep people alive against most comps in 2v2, if you cannot out-dps FoL spam without Sacred Shield then good luck ever killing a druid).

A well-timed Grounding Totem can prevent a 6s HoJ. If they open with a silence shield throw, a HoJ is probably coming.

It's really easy to put enough pressure onto the prot paladin or his partner to force the team to play defensively, which is pretty much a free win against prot/X comps.

My 3.2 Paladin healing UI: http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h314/kaikulu/FoLui.jpg
http://www.saga-guild.org
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Haomarush&n=Eloderina (former main)
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  • 10. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 08:14:47 PM PDT
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U were trying a bit too hard there, which make u look kinda silly ;)


Anyone can tell you had no idea that hex has a CD, but that's alright since you've never played a shammy, obviously.

Also I wouldn't call a 2-3k lava burst "hard".


Lol no it was honestly a typo, I was copy pasting all of his ridiculous talk about how amazing prot in arena is (its nice but no where near broken as OP claims).

2-3k is a lot harder then I hit with all of my "amazing" attacks that come from being prot/holy in arena.


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  • 11. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 08:18:30 PM PDT
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LOL WIN A LVL 11 ALT POSTING ON MY RECENT ACTUAL TRYING IN ARENA LOLOLOLOL UR SO GEWD TO HIDE BEHIND YOUR ALT.

But srsly, I take raiding more serious and only got to 1250 so I could get the libram for next patch, but that gives me no right to say anything about paladins in arena. Gotcha.

fail troll is fail


Your 1250 paladin gives you the right to talk about Shamans in arena.

Really.

And if you focused on raiding, you'd have either cleared 10 man, or maybe even.. set foot in 25 man.

You are seriously a horrible player and need to stfu.
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  • 12. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 08:24:44 PM PDT
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2-3k is a lot harder then I hit with all of my "amazing" attacks that come from being prot/holy in arena.


I had the exact same thought too, until i watched a prot pally arena clip someone's posted the other day.
/cower
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  • 13. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 08:25:12 PM PDT
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Your 1250 paladin gives you the right to talk about Shamans in arena.

Really.

And if you focused on raiding, you'd have either cleared 10 man, or maybe even.. set foot in 25 man.

You are seriously a horrible player and need to stfu.


Because my guild is currently working on gearing two groups through Ulduar10 (and btw last week was our first week clearing and we got all the keepers down)

And yeah, as I have done 102 arena matches this season in 2s I have the right to talk about anything related to arena, shamans iz fine against healing paladins....L2 wind shock / grounding totem/ hex / war stomp (if you are tauren) and I dunno ghost wolf and run away? The only 2 healer classes I can think of that even tank damage for a long time are Disc and Resto druids, and druids also have the option to run, force a paladin to bubble and its GG.

Step 1: Hex make the paladin trinket durr hurr
Step 2: Grounding Totem (if he stuns you afterwards...ZOMG TRINKET?!)
Step 3: Wind shock, Prot has no instant heals and is EASILY interrupted/silenced
Step 4: During bubble attack his partner, learn to switch targets cause he is going to be healing himself during bubble
Step 5: Grounding Totem DO IT AGAIN CAUSE OF HoJ!
Step 6: Wind Shock Wind Shock Wind Shock Wind Shock Wind Shock

Seriously, you have to learn to shut down someone. Boomkin partner and I run a train on a disc priest and kill them before they can heal because he'll use Cyclone to interrupt heals and then I'll stun or silence when its done, you can use hex as an interrupt too, its not a terrible idea, trust me.


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-Ghostcrawler on how they will nerf Paladins in every single patch.
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  • 14. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 08:25:13 PM PDT
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As a shaman you are the number 1 counter for a prot pally healer.

Earth shock any heals, purge ss and rf, ?, profit

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  • 15. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 08:25:58 PM PDT
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How so? Explain plz



Purge + Shock

As hard as it is to believe, it isn't the paladins' fault that you are a moron. Changing their class won't fix it =(
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  • 16. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 08:28:48 PM PDT
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Seriously, you have to learn to shut down someone. Boomkin partner and I run a train on a disc priest and kill them before they can heal because he'll use Cyclone to interrupt heals and then I'll stun or silence when its done, you can use hex as an interrupt too, its not a terrible idea, trust me.


I don't have any trouble with Prot Paladins. I kill them just fine as an RShaman. I'm not saying nerf them. Your 102 games played only proves you fail utterly at arenas, and I could care less about your terrible guild story.


I'm saying you are terrible and should have no part in talking about PVP balance.
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  • 17. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 08:32:17 PM PDT
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I don't have any trouble with Prot Paladins. I kill them just fine as an RShaman. I'm not saying nerf them. Your 102 games played only proves you fail utterly at arenas, and I could care less about your terrible guild story.


I'm saying you are terrible and should have no part in talking about PVP balance.


102 games is barely even playing bro, dunno how you arena but I see people on my server who actually DO arena seriously who are at like 300 games in a week average.

And yes I have every right to talk about PVP balance, cause until you post on your main (inb4 forum ban cause that makes you a INTERNET TUFF GUY) proving you are doing any better then I am in arena, you have to stfu.

And also, you just said you agree with me, so gj on trolling moron you just triple failed.


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  • 18. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 08:33:19 PM PDT
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And also, you just said you agree with me, so gj on trolling moron you just triple failed.


I triple fail, yet at least I have hard modes and a respectable rating. Sure. Never post again, you aren't cut out for it.
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  • 19. Re: GC You say Prot Paladin healers...   07/02/2009 08:42:58 PM PDT
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I triple fail, yet at least I have hard modes and a respectable rating. Sure. Never post again, you aren't cut out for it.


No you dont
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