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Hokiepokie

< Casually Serious >

Terenas

60. Re: Can someone help me find my abilities for 07/02/2009 05:17:17 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

It gets answers, apparently.

Nope, it doesn't exactly do that.

Purplecadet formed a good list of problem (and it didn't address everything), but it was a fantastic list in my opinion. Ghostcrawler realized Shadow Priests were desperate for answers, and he found the perfect thread to deliver them in.

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Lupia

< Axiom >

Cenarion Circle

61. Re: Can someone help me find my abilities for 07/02/2009 05:19:02 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

It gets answers, apparently.

Just ask Funeralpyre where 5 THREADS of capped constructive responses and discussion got?

They didn't get a single blue response.

And the troll threads got

"Don't fish for blue posts"

which doesn't help anyone.

I think you deserve a little credit, No one's ever dodged that shot of mine...But nobody gets lucky twice either!

Bitterpill

< PCC >

Hellscream

62. Re: Can someone help me find my abilities for 07/02/2009 05:19:10 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

Well apparently pages and pages of constructive feedback don't work either, but my way seemed to work pretty well, don't ya think?

actually no.. He replied to a shadow thread... all you got was a statement that he made a mistake... And when he did reply all you did was jump on him for making a mistake.. If I was him I would think twice before replying to questions again...

But since shadow priests are now a cross between Jesus and Dracula, he should still find love. - Malfius

Winkithia

< Minion >

Silvermoon

63. Re: Can someone help me find my abilities for 07/02/2009 05:20:11 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
GC's comments lead me to believe he doesn't play a shadow priest which leads me to believe that he hasn't spent 4 years playing a spec that went from great to decent to terrible. I'm obviously not the only person that feels this way, and so I can come off as a bit harsh. I guess I'm just a product of my environment.

This spriest is mostly retired because of the problems with the spec, but you don't see me being a douche about it. You can be reasonable and communicate your problems at the same time.

He was talking about PvE, it was hard to tell in context that he was, but oh well that's what it was MOVE ON.

Íkthan

< Oligarchy >

Bloodscalp

64. Re: Can someone help me find my abilities for 07/02/2009 05:22:04 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

They didn't get a single blue response.

you got a blue response where a grown man got paid to make fun of you at work. Do you feel your thread was more productive?

Alexsus

< Darkness to Light >

Anetheron

65. Re: Can someone help me find my abilities for 07/02/2009 05:22:21 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Being obnoxious about it won't get your spec of choice fixed.

Ghostcrawler

Blizzard Poster

66. Re: Can someone help me find my abilities for 07/02/2009 05:26:19 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Just ask Funeralpyre where 5 THREADS of capped constructive responses and discussion got?

They didn't get a single blue response.

That's not true. It got a response yesterday. It would have been silly to respond to every shadow priest thread with the same message and frankly we were more interested in getting the information out than we were in evaluating which thread "won the contest."

I think you guys place far too much emphasis on the identity of the OP and their post. From my POV, I wanted to answer some shadow priest questions since I had to be the moderation jerk in a couple of whiny threads and the official Q&A was so far away. And regardless of whether or not it got a response, all of that discussion got us to talking and we ended up making some changes.

My advice is to take my recent shadow priest posts as "shadow priests finally got some answers" and not an endorsement of a particular thread or player who asked them. It's hard enough to find time to visit the forums. I don't want to have to play the game of deciding which thread is the most worthy.

I wanted to make a spriest post. Here's a spriest thread that isn't total QQ. Boom.

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Ghostcrawler
Lead Systems Designer

Darkennite

< Epidemic >

Thunderhorn

68. Re: Can someone help me find my abilities for 07/02/2009 05:30:19 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

That's not true. It got a response yesterday. It would have been silly to respond to every shadow priest thread with the same message and frankly we were more interested in getting the information out than we were in evaluating which thread "won the contest."

I think you guys place far too much emphasis on the identity of the OP and their post. From my POV, I wanted to answer some shadow priest questions since I had to be the moderation jerk in a couple of whiny threads and the official Q&A was so far away. And regardless of whether or not it got a response, all of that discussion got us to talking and we ended up making some changes.

My advice is to take my recent shadow priest posts as "shadow priests finally got some answers" and not an endorsement of a particular thread or player who asked them. It's hard enough to find time to visit the forums. I don't want to have to play the game of deciding which thread is the most worthy.

I wanted to make a spriest post. Here's a spriest thread that isn't total QQ. Boom.

My advice, Don't feed the trolls. LOL

Boomkinbro

< Roflcopter Repairmen >

Tichondrius

69. Re: Can someone help me find my abilities for 07/02/2009 05:35:21 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

That's not true. It got a response yesterday. It would have been silly to respond to every shadow priest thread with the same message and frankly we were more interested in getting the information out than we were in evaluating which thread "won the contest."

I think you guys place far too much emphasis on the identity of the OP and their post. From my POV, I wanted to answer some shadow priest questions since I had to be the moderation jerk in a couple of whiny threads and the official Q&A was so far away. And regardless of whether or not it got a response, all of that discussion got us to talking and we ended up making some changes.

My advice is to take my recent shadow priest posts as "shadow priests finally got some answers" and not an endorsement of a particular thread or player who asked them. It's hard enough to find time to visit the forums. I don't want to have to play the game of deciding which thread is the most worthy.

I wanted to make a spriest post. Here's a spriest thread that isn't total QQ. Boom.

thanks, GC

Jancy

Gurubashi

70. Re: Can someone help me find my abilities for 07/02/2009 05:39:39 PM PDT

should tell you something right there when you can only find one thread out of twenty that isn't "total QQ"

Bitterpill

< PCC >

Hellscream

71. Re: Can someone help me find my abilities for 07/02/2009 05:47:48 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
should tell you something right there when you can only find one thread out of twenty that isn't "total QQ"

Or maybe just the whiner like to QQ.. People happy with the spec tend not to post happy posts..

And no I am not saying shadow is fine.. But I tend to not cry about my specs... I move on to another toon or try another spec..

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But since shadow priests are now a cross between Jesus and Dracula, he should still find love. - Malfius

Kom

< Phail >

Stormreaver

72. Re: Can someone help me find my abilities for 07/02/2009 06:12:57 PM PDT

While the quote in question does make me slightly question what in the world was CG talking about, lets all be nice. After all, he did respond, in detail, to spreists.

Whether it was well overdue is besides the point. Whether the post makes it seem as if he has never played an spriest is besides the point. What is the point is that people were unsure what context he was speaking in. He cleared that up. /thread move along.

NERF ROGUES GC QQQQQQQQQ

Cenethiras

< Sawed Off >

Silver Hand

73. Re: Can someone help me find my abilities for 07/02/2009 06:20:37 PM PDT

Cheers, GC. Can't wait to see what changes have been made. Thanks man

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Buhwheat

< Wayfaring Strangers >

Frostmane

74. Re: Can someone help me find my abilities for 07/02/2009 07:21:16 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

That's a true statement. It doesn't apply to PvP, but some abilities work differently in PvP. Even though the OP was asking primarily from a PVP point-of-view, there have been a lot of Spriest questions on the forums lately, and I was trying to appeal to a broader audience so that the PvE priests wouldn't immediately reply with "But we were ignored."

I'd work a little harder on improving your WoW game and focus less on the "catch the dev in an apparent misstatement" game. :)

To be honest, if I had replied in such a snide remark IE: "If you would read over your comments before posting them in order to clear up any possible misunderstandings." I would be worried about getting hit over the head with a ban stick.

Putting a :) after your remarks makes it no less unprofessional.

Improving our WoW game and running into problems like trying to use a nice spell for pvp but it doesn't work very well is how we get to this point.

Adilira

< Dressed To Kill >

Norgannon

75. Re: Can someone help me find my abilities for 07/02/2009 08:02:27 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

That's a true statement. It doesn't apply to PvP, but some abilities work differently in PvP. Even though the OP was asking primarily from a PVP point-of-view, there have been a lot of Spriest questions on the forums lately, and I was trying to appeal to a broader audience so that the PvE priests wouldn't immediately reply with "But we were ignored."

I'd work a little harder on improving your WoW game and focus less on the "catch the dev in an apparent misstatement" game. :)

It's not really a surprise that people read it in a PvP context though, seeing as how shadow priests are objectively in a much worse relative position in PvP than in PvE. Shadow priests still bring a lot to a raid even when they don't top the meters, especially in Naxx. Now you can say "don't speak for other people not everyone feels that way", but I'm pretty confident that from your greater access to data YOU can see that the statistics bear this out.

Now obviously a little critical thinking makes it obvious what you meant, but regardless I think there are ways to improve the role of the Mind Control spell in PvP without making it OVERpowered in PvE.

Tyraeh

< Sovereign >

Garrosh

77. Re: Can someone help me find my abilities for 07/02/2009 10:25:13 PM PDT

in my brief experience with a Spriest, I found the only problem was starting up my dps up. once it got rolling it seemed pretty competitive dispite having mostly heal gear.

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In the WoW forums however, this is the opposite.

Mireina

< Ascension >

Moon Guard

78. Re: Can someone help me find my abilities for 07/02/2009 10:36:32 PM PDT

GC messed up. Oh noes. Cry me a freakin' river, leap down from your cross, make a bridge, and get over it.<3

/Blink
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