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Zarhym
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  • 160. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 09:49:26 PM PDT
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I'm noticing all the blue posts sound snide and defensive.... they must know that what blizz is doing with this armor is sub par and lazy

No, I just wish the preview had happened differently so at least examples of one type of gear, say cloth, were available for the Horde and Alliance. It's difficult enough to wade through the instant vitriol flowing freely 'round these parts within minutes of a preview -- almost the natural reaction for some when they see blue words -- but when some players still seem to believe there are 4 set models each with 6 different color schemes, it makes having a discussion about things difficult.

I offer that to show I can be publicly critical of things we do. Had pictures of at least one or two gear types been available for both the Horde and Alliance to show some contrast, I don't think the immediate negative reaction would've been as strong.

Having said that, I'm not upset, disappointed or underwhelmed by all of the druid art, Arena gear and tier-9 sets going into patch 3.2, among many other features. Please refrain from asserting what my true feelings are based on the tone with which you read my text.

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  • 161. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 09:53:45 PM PDT
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I for ( dunno how much like it) like it, well i do realize just a recolor but the appaereance is just meh to me so i prefer stats then appearance so stats are nice I appreciate your hard work blizz :D

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  • 162. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 09:57:27 PM PDT
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You keep using the word "unique", I do not think it means what you think it means.

I for one dont raid with people of the opposite faction. So what I care about is looking different from the other people in my raid. This "factions are different but everyone in a faction looks the same" thing would be much better served in the arena. For raid tier sets it is a MASSIVE disappointment.

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  • 163. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 09:57:43 PM PDT
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hard work blizz :D


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You're being serious?

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  • 164. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 09:58:29 PM PDT
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So, rather than have one set per class (the same for the Horde and the Alliance), there will be one set per gear type (cloth, leather, etc.) with different color distinctions for each class that will be completely unique between the Horde and the Alliance.

So instead of having 10 different sets (one per class) you will have 8 different sets (4 per gear type x 2 factions). I am talking about design here, not colors.

I'd rather have my own warrior design that I will share with the hordies than looking the same as pally and DKs...

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  • 165. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 09:58:50 PM PDT
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You're being serious?

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Honestly i would love to see you do better

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  • Khaz'goroth
  • 166. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 10:00:54 PM PDT
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Honestly i would love to see you do better


Why? he isn't being paid to do better, however Blizzard are.
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  • 167. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 10:02:29 PM PDT
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Why? he isn't being paid to do better, however Blizzard are.


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Honestly i would love to see you do better


My point was simply this, since you seem to be a bit thick, 8 "different" designs is not "Hard work", 10 is a bit closer, 20 is hard work.

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  • Emerald Dream
  • 168. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 10:03:35 PM PDT
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Honestly i would love to see you do better


I believe a poster in this thread has already done better

And being able to do better isn't my job, it's theirs. If i do my job crappy, and someone who doesnt have my job complains, that is their right, i can't say to them "i'd like to see you do better" because they are paying me to do better than them.

Same goes for blizzard. If i could do this myself, i'd be one charging 15 dollars a month. But they are the ones collecting the dough, and they brag to be the king MMO in their own advertisements, so we expect a high quality service.
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  • 169. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 10:06:22 PM PDT
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No, I just wish the preview had happened differently so at least examples of one type of gear, say cloth, were available for the Horde and Alliance. It's difficult enough to wade through the instant vitriol flowing freely 'round these parts within minutes of a preview -- almost the natural reaction for some when they see blue words -- but when some players still seem to believe there are 4 set models each with 6 different color schemes, it makes having a discussion about things difficult.

I offer that to show I can be publicly critical of things we do. Had pictures of at least one or two gear types been available for both the Horde and Alliance to show some contrast, I don't think the immediate negative reaction would've been as strong.

Having said that, I'm not upset, disappointed or underwhelmed by all of the druid art, Arena gear and tier-9 sets going into patch 3.2, among many other features. Please refrain from asserting what my true feelings are based on the tone with which you read my text.


I gotta be honest: I find what the horde look like compared to me quite irrelevant. I don't really play with them much, and when I do, I'm wearing my pvp gear, you can be sure. To me, this is about standing next to my Death Knight friend and being a Blue Plate Wearer, vs his Grey Plate Wearer. I think it's a mistake to dismiss many of these posts as instinctual vitriol.

Here's a little secret for anyone reading this who knows me: I'm playing this game today because one day about 3 years ago in Ironforge I saw a Paladin in Judgement and I thought it was one of the coolest things I had ever seen in a video game. Tier 2 motivated me to hit 60, to learn what raiding was, and to drop my two hander and learn to heal. I. hate. healing. Don't underestimate the power and emotion attached to the tier sets. They're genuine emotion, and while proper words may fail people on these forums, it doesn't make their sentiments invalid.

So the tier sets are different between horde and alliance. Great. It is clear from the preview that the Mage, Priest and Warlock gear of alliance are the same model reskinned. I think that's enough information to start painting more of the picture, and for people to begin to be upset.

We are getting a patch where the new tier of content is 5 bosses. Where tier 9 is spread out across armor class. "Not one, but Two Jormungars" taking on the status it has is telling. It's easy to understand why some people feel underwhelmed, or let down, or disappointed. Dismissing it as reflexive seems wrong, and out of touch.

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  • 170. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 10:06:34 PM PDT
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I got mad respect for Zaryhm editing people's post and straight owning them lol. Especially that annoying ass Scali gnome. That little kid annoys the hell outa me.

On topic, sucks to say I agree with everyone else, Blizz. What you're doing isn't new at all, it's EXACTLY what you did for Vanilla WoW's pvp sets...


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I think we can agree that altering class, faction, or race would drastically change the core of a character, and ultimately the functionality of the game. -Zarhym

Oh the irony.
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  • 171. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 10:07:31 PM PDT
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I believe a poster in this thread has already done better

And being able to do better isn't my job, it's theirs. If i do my job crappy, and someone who doesnt have my job complains, that is their right, i can't say to them "i'd like to see you do better" because they are paying me to do better than them.

Same goes for blizzard. If i could do this myself, i'd be one charging 15 dollars a month. But they are the ones collecting the dough, and they brag to be the king MMO in their own advertisements, so we expect a high quality service.




There are a lot more customers in this game than you and just because the negative people are the loudest, it doesn't mean they are the majority. Blizz gets paid to be creative and change things up once and awhile too. There was a time when all the differences in gear and off sets made people QQ just as bad as they are now. I like the new gear concept and I know a lot of other people do too. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean they didn't do their job

This nerf bothered me a little at first then I was like

oh wait, I can heal myself through Naxx10 by myself in t8/t8.5

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  • Dragonmaw
  • 172. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 10:08:12 PM PDT
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Yea, your artists are definitely working hard. Less designs, worse looking quality art, worse designs. Just a terrible terrible system.

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  • 173. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 10:08:45 PM PDT
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I always liked the difference between lvl 60 pvp armor for alliance vs lvl 60 pvp armor for horde, but i would advise there be more distinction between say a horde priest armor set vs a horde warlock armor set instead of simply giving it a different tint of color... Just small differences, but anyway i trust the art guys at blizz. they always make some prett epic stuff.
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  • 174. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 10:08:57 PM PDT
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Blizzard, please change the models and make them badass and unique to each class before you release 3.2. Everyone is complaining about it. WE DONT WANT THIS.


I like this.

So yea, there's a very vocal group of players who get angry about every little thing. Just remember, you don't speak for the majority of players, only for yourself.

Really, there's very little difference in the artwork between the greens that you got in Howling Fjord and the T8.5 you are wearing now, it's so everything "matches" You can bet your guild back that no matter what they do, all the sets will be dark grey, and will match every piece of gear in your bank.

Personally, I miss the variety in gear that we had in TBC, even though it was easy to look like you just fell into pile of paint cans :-)

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  • Emerald Dream
  • 175. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 10:11:39 PM PDT
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I like this.

So yea, there's a very vocal group of players who get angry about every little thing. Just remember, you don't speak for the majority of players, only for yourself.

Really, there's very little difference in the artwork between the greens that you got in Howling Fjord and the T8.5 you are wearing now, it's so everything "matches" You can bet your guild back that no matter what they do, all the sets will be dark grey, and will match every piece of gear in your bank.

Personally, I miss the variety in gear that we had in TBC, even though it was easy to look like you just fell into pile of paint cans :-)


I have yet to talk to a single person who actually raids that likes the new sets.

And There are over 40 raiders in my guild.
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  • Sargeras
  • 176. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 10:12:04 PM PDT
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Having said that, I'm not upset, disappointed or underwhelmed by all of the druid art, Arena gear and tier-9 sets going into patch 3.2, among many other features. Please refrain from asserting what my true feelings are based on the tone with which you read my text.

oh god, now they're going to blame the druids for their not-so-pretty clothes
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  • 177. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 10:12:30 PM PDT
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so basically a raid is going to look like its made up of 3-4 classes

blizz if art and style wasn't really important this would be world of warcraft: the textmud

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  • 178. Re: Teir9 please change before release   07/02/2009 10:12:36 PM PDT
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I offer that to show I can be publicly critical of things we do. Had pictures of at least one or two gear types been available for both the Horde and Alliance to show some contrast, I don't think the immediate negative reaction would've been as strong.



It wouldn´t matter if you guys had released both factions sets at the same time. What people are arguing about is not that the alliance and horde are equal. Is that all faction <cloth, mail, leather or plate> users will look the same.

I understand the concept involved in a alliance set and a horde set. but you could have made them all the same colors, i.e., silver and blue for alliance and red and black for horde as long as each class kept some differences between them. I bet you wouldn´t have so many people venting here.

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