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you're comparing a force that is uniform to one that is unique.

as a rogue my gear is supposed to be rogue gear. showing stealth and guile and you know, rogueyness. i'm not the same as a druid. we don't do the same thing (even kitty druids don't do all that rogues do) and our history is VERY different.


oh. and if you want to continue to look credible, you need to edit out that first part. otherwise you look really stupid.

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HAHA I don't care about credibility but, perhaps you should take a couple lessons in physics to learn that any human being can indeed wear a Canadian army uniform, even people who have lost limbs, though the fit would be a little off!

It was just a little humor, I see now I should be less subtle.

You still fail to see the point. So I am going to retire it and let you be.

*Bows*

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Anyway, the sets are going to be what the sets are going to be and if you are too blind to appreciate them because of some misinformed misconceptions of what tier sets are supposed to be then, too bad. You may carry on complaining but, rest assured, calling the development team "lazy" because you are too ignorant to see what they are attempting to do is just as "lazy"


Regards

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Lazy? So basically, I take the time to point out why I personally believe their reasoning is flawed, yet I'm lazy for doing so? Lazy would have been me telling you "NOU n00bs, you'z wrong and I'z be right". I took the time to elaborate on my points, rather than try and ridicule you. If you disagree, that's one thing. We can agree to disagree, but insulting me gets us nowhere. I'm not ignorant or lazy because we don't see eye to eye, so at the very least you could show some respect. I didn't insult you, I don't see why you should insult me.

And I stand by what I said. A warrior that needs to focus on dealing as much damage as he can in the shortest amount of time would not opt for the same kind of protection as the warrior that needs to survive for as long as he can. Just because they both wear plated armor doesn't mean they need to wear the same kind of plate. One needs to move around quickly to avoid being caught in the fire, while the other needs to be protected as much as possible while standing in the fire. They have similar tactics, however they have different goals.

And for the record, I'm not saying WoW needs different styles for every different spec, I'm saying that if they really want to go down in the details of "We are all a united army", then they need to acknowledge other details that should come into play. If they are going in a new direction, they should go there 100% and that's not what they seem to be doing right now.

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I'm really disappointed in both the appearance of T9 and Blizzard's responses to the negative feedback from the forums which has been (in Zarhym's case at least, not to uh.. point fingers...) very dismissive and condescending.

Ever since BC the art direction for items has taken a turn for the worst and this latest update seems to confirm that it's only downhill from here. Armor is increasingly looking like just recolored and resized versions of the same art.

If it simply would take too long to design unique (it may be a good idea to look up the definition of that word before applying it to T9, blue posters...) then take more time. Hire more staff. Do whatever it is that worked so well for you in the past for making unique T1-T8 sets!

Regardless of how you phrase it, this is a lazy, lazy approach. For a company that usually puts a ton of effort into it's products to make them spectacular (usually at the expense of a quick release... cough cough) this is a truly sad offering.

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QFT.

It's best to wait until everything is released, but every tier has been lazier than the last so I don't have high hopes for anything. The company who answered "When it's done" when customers asked for new content is simply no longer here.

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Well, you are entitled to your opinion. However, I only ask that you wait until we have released all of the sets, both Horde and Alliance, before you come to a definitive judgement.

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How does that even make sense? We don't like the ones you've already released, but when you release the rest we'll suddenly think the first ones aren't completely awful looking?

Ooook.

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See, but the Horde Shaman and the Alliance Shaman are going to look distinctly different.

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And is it really that hard to make every class look different? How many chimps do you have running your company anyways?

I lol'ed when I saw the T9 for Alliance Priest, Warlock, and Mage. The only difference between them are colors. Also, the Horde Shaman and Hunter both look like warriors.

GG Blizz?

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Lazy? So basically, I take the time to point out why I personally believe their reasoning is flawed, yet I'm lazy for doing so? Lazy would have been me telling you "NOU n00bs, you'z wrong and I'z be right". I took the time to elaborate on my points, rather than try and ridicule you. If you disagree, that's one thing. We can agree to disagree, but insulting me gets us nowhere. I'm not ignorant or lazy because we don't see eye to eye, so at the very least you could show some respect. I didn't insult you, I don't see why you should insult me.

And I stand by what I said. A warrior that needs to focus on dealing as much damage as he can in the shortest amount of time would not opt for the same kind of protection as the warrior that needs to survive for as long as he can. Just because they both wear plated armor doesn't mean they need to wear the same kind of plate. One needs to move around quickly to avoid being caught in the fire, while the other needs to be protected as much as possible while standing in the fire. They have similar tactics, however they have different goals.

And for the record, I'm not saying WoW needs different styles for every different spec, I'm saying that if they really want to go down in the details of "We are all a united army", then they need to acknowledge other details that should come into play. If they are going in a new direction, they should go there 100% and that's not what they seem to be doing right now.

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I am glad you see things this way, for the comment wasn't aimed at you or anyone who took the time to express their ideas.

Although you must agree that insulting the dev team accomplishes nothing, right?

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See, but the Horde Shaman and the Alliance Shaman are going to look distinctly different.

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For PvP set, we want alliance armor to look different from horde armor, because it's FACTION that matters.

For PvE set, we NEVER asked different armor sets for each faction, because it's CLASS that matters.

You don't have a clue what we want.

And no matter what excuse you have, Priest/Lock/Mage using same model is lazy design, and FFS, it looks worse than T8.

And from the spoiled T9 Plate (alliance only though), I'd say...I rather keep my T8, at least the helm and shoulder.

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HAHA I don't care about credibility but, perhaps you should take a couple lessons in physics to learn that any human being can indeed wear a Canadian army uniform, even people who have lost limbs, though the fit would be a little off!

It was just a little humor, I see now I should be less subtle.

You still fail to see the point. So I am going to retire it and let you be.

*Bows*

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you're point is about the UN/NATO. which isn't a point because the focus of those forces is to come together and show unity. if a country is going to war on its on they aren't going to let you wear the uniform of another country. even if that's our ally. just won't happen.


it makes no sense to compare forces that stress uniqueness to those that stress uniforms.

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The definition will not be between each class, though each class will look different in its own right, but in the line between Horde and Alliance.

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Really lame.

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The reason that these sets look so bad is because Blizzard is putting most work into the awesomness that will be tier 10, right?




Right?

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Don't set yourself up for disappointment. They're saving the creativity for Arena gear that won't be earned by anybody you or I know.

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In game, it there is no set numbering.

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So? Bliz on their own website classified the armour sets as TIERS. Give it up.

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If it makes you feel happier you can call this T8.5. There's nothing in game to contradict that.

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LOL. I will call it what Blizzard (makes the game remember) calls it. I am arguing it should be tier 8.75/colosseum set/whatever. It is a filler set and should be called such.

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These labels are artificial anyway.

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Real enough for bliz to list them on their site.

Another reason they should just give us appearance slots...

Gear looks fine. It's the fact that you can't tell classes apart that's the failure.

Other than that, stuff's just fine.

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you're point is about the UN/NATO. which isn't a point because the focus of those forces is to come together and show unity. if a country is going to war on it's on they aren't going to let you wear the uniform of another country. even if that's our ally. just won't happen.


it makes no sense to compare forces that stress uniqueness to those that stress uniforms.

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Um that was EU (Euroean Union) and I was referring to the EU battle-groups composed of units from different nations.

But anyway, you contradict yourself, if an army is going to war, would they let everyone wear something that made them "feel" unique?

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I'm noticing all the blue posts sound snide and defensive.... they must know that what blizz is doing with this armor is sub par and lazy

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They always get that tone when they know the players are on to them.

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Um that was EU (Euroean Union) and I was referring to the EU battle-groups composed of units from different nations.

But anyway, you contradict yourself, if an army is going to war, would they let everyone wear something that made them "feel" unique?

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again. do you see US marines going to battle in canadian uniforms?

nope. they might be on our side but that doesn't change things