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  • 20. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:22:07 PM PDT
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Questions 7:Are you planning on implementing a snare/root for shadow priest? Shadow Priest is currently the only caster that has no snare/root abilities. These types of abilities are essential when we are not able to tank damage and wear cloth.


We don't want to give every mechanic to every class if we can help it. Just above you asked if it was a bad thing to have some unique mechanics. Saying no isn't the same as saying everyone can have some mechanics. We intend for the Shadow CC to be things like Psychic Horror and Silence, and to a much lesser extent, Mind Control.


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Question 8: Shadow priest are always triggering our global cooldown but have no way to make it shorter. Are you planning to implement maybe a talent to reduce our global cooldown?


We wouldn't do it through a talent, but we might let haste do it. Remember, the global is there for a reason. Having too many abilities short-circuit it will ultimately have consequences.


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Question 9: : As you may know shadow priest have a fair amount of mobility issues, are you planning on adding a short immunity to snares after fade is used? ( Improved Fade ofcourse.)


No. We would be more likely to nerf snares. We don't want to have an arms race of snares, then snare immunity, then the snare that can't be made immune, and so on.


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Question 10: Are you planning to add Body and Soul to the shadow tree?


No.


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Question 11: The fear/blind DR has severely destroyed a lot of synergy shadowpriest and rogues shared, are you planning to revert this change next season?


No. The game needs more DR on crowd control, not less. Using your crowd control at the right time is awesome. Chaining different forms of CC together to keep an enemy from ever being able to move is a lot less fun.


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Question 12: Dispersion a lot of people feel the abilities strength does not merit it as a 51 point talent, are there any plans to move this to a lower tier in the shadow tree? Will there be any plans to remove the silence effect it applies in the future?


We don't want to remove the silence for the reason we've never wanted to remove it -- we want Dispersion as an escape mechanism, not an offensive cooldown. We might lower Dispersion's cooldown though. We want it to do it's job, not get marginalized in the tree.


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Question 13: Was the disarm on Psychic horror intended to occur after the "horror," or during? Is there any intention of removing the travel time on Psychic Horror, If not will you add an animation?


What do you mean by animation? To the projectile or the target? The disarm was intended to occur during the horror.


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Question 14: Psychic Scream is a very powerful spell for getting attackers off of you, but there are various ways to counter it. Would it be reasonable to add a penalty for removing this spell early, maybe a 2 second stun or a snare.


We do the dot / hot penalties because its a weakness of dots. We're not crazy about going down the road of making all CC have a kiss / curse element with its removal.


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Question 15: Most damage over time spells just tick with no special effect with an exception to a few.
In order to help us damage better could we get more "effects" on our damage over time spells such as ticking hard initially and damage slowly wearing off.


This might be something we'd consider. I understand the concern.


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Question 16: From my understanding there is a cooldown on Devouring Plague to keep us from putting it on multiple targets. Couldn't you just make Devouring Plague only usable on 1 target at a time and remove the cooldown?


Yes. I'm not sure many players would consider that a buff though.

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  • 21. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:22:11 PM PDT
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Question 17: Mind Control although this is a fun spell it isn't very useful in pvp situations because it leaves your character immobile for however long and randomly breaks. Could mind control make the controlled target your pet but movable by using the same mechanic used to place a death and decay?


We might do something like that for pets in general. Mind Control however is a really powerful ability. Not only does it prevent the target from doing anything, it also lets you use their abilities against their allies. It's going to be hard for us to remove too many downsides from the effect.


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Question 18: Are you planning on giving spriest a new 51 point talent?


No. We want the 51-pointers to be very attractive, but not necessarily the most powerful talent in the tree. A great number, if not a majority, of Shadow priests have Dispersion so it's hard to argue it isn't attractive. I understand some players want the 51 to be a big damage spell for damage-dealing specs, but that just isn't always what we think the tree needs. I'm not saying we are going to take the talent trees to 61 or 71 points soon, but if we did, just think of the expectation. Does the 71 pointer need to blow all of the previous talents out of the water? Do deeper talents need to become more powerful at the same time the character gets more of them? That leads to a lot of power inflation. We think talents probably account for too much of a character's power already.

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  • 22. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:29:31 PM PDT
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I would like to say thankyou to GC for that post.

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  • 23. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:33:00 PM PDT
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one last thing on the end.

Shadow has major mana problems in PvP areas where our DoTs are heavy mana costing. To counter this we have things like shadow fiend, dispersion, and hymm of mana. all three of these are frequently useless however.

Dispersion is used as a defensive cooldown and almost all of the time that means it is used before we get to use even 10% of our mana, which makes the mana portion of it useless

Shadow Fiend and CC, anyone who sees it will make it useless within seconds.

Hymm of Mana can not be used in shadowform, giving it an overall mana gain of like 500 for an 8 second channel that say "INTURRUPT ME" on top of it.

are shadow's mana consumption in arena being looked into?


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We used to call the mage the master of AoE damage, but we’ve since decided that’s not a great niche for anyone.
GC, Mage Class Q&A

you forgot the "except Spreists" at the end of it.
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  • 24. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:35:03 PM PDT
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omg i love you GC for replying to my thread! take that haters who said to delete my thread!
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  • 25. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:35:05 PM PDT
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Appreciate the replies, Ghost. I'm not a Shadowpriest but it was a good read. Thanks!

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  • 26. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:35:40 PM PDT
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I think a lot of shadow priests just wanted to hear something, and you deliverd. Thanks a bunch.






Ummmm on the note of dispersion, is it intended that it doesn't work on things like strengthened iron roots or any time a dot is applied to the target before they disperse? Not that I expect you to answer other random questions in this thread, just thought I would throw it out there ;o.

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  • 27. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:35:55 PM PDT
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omg i love you GC for replying to my thread! take that haters who said to delete my thread!


Kinda surprised you got the reply purple, but we worked for it and eventually we got it.

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  • 28. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:38:57 PM PDT
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omg i love you GC for replying to my thread! take that haters who said to delete my thread!


Does this mean i don't have to read the daily 5 "SP are ignored" threads?

It was getting old
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  • 29. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:40:35 PM PDT
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Does this mean i don't have to read the daily 5 "SP are ignored" threads?

It was getting old


Boomkin complaining about spamming the DD forums, I lolled.

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  • 30. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:40:43 PM PDT
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What do you mean by animation? To the projectile or the target? The disarm was intended to occur during the horror.

I meant do you plan on adding a projectile to psychic horror, if not are you going to remove the travel time?
Or do you just want to keep it as is?

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  • 31. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:42:00 PM PDT
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Boomkin complaining about spamming the DD forums, I lolled.


80 druid/dk/lock/hunter

I could care less about what class i am posting on, want me to switch to any of the above?

Quit spamming the forums with useless threads it was getting ridiculous
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  • 32. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:44:12 PM PDT
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Thank you for answering these questions, GC. Though it won't placate the entire community in terms of "when are we going to get buffs?" we appreciate you FINALLY taking the time to acknowledge us and some of our concerns.

This is just a shot in the dark, but while you're here, mind commenting on our haste scaling issues as illustrated in Funeralpyre's Shadow 5 thread?

plz
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  • 33. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:45:07 PM PDT
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80 druid/dk/lock/hunter

I could care less about what class i am posting on, want me to switch to any of the above?

Quit spamming the forums with useless threads it was getting ridiculous


That one thread that kept getting remade because it hit the post cap. That was ridiculous.

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  • 34. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:46:16 PM PDT
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Thank you for answering these questions, GC. Though it won't placate the entire community in terms of "when are we going to get buffs?" we appreciate you FINALLY taking the time to acknowledge us and some of our concerns.

This is just a shot in the dark, but while you're here, mind commenting on our haste scaling issues as illustrated in Funeralpyre's Shadow 5 thread?

plz


He did inderectly when he was talking about dots scaling with haste. I would have asked if he hadn't :)

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  • 35. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:46:25 PM PDT
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I honestly am super surprised GC replied to this thread. Many of the questions posed were completely ridiculous, although some were very poignant and needed answering.

Still, I guess we got our own Q&A now, even if it was not exactly on the same timeline that GC no doubt has planned.
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  • 36. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:47:45 PM PDT
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I thank you from the bottom of my heart ghostcrawler. You really alleviated some worries on my mind about my class as a whole. Thanks so much again for the reply. That's all we ever really wanted: A genuine, down-to-earth answer to our problems.

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  • 37. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:47:49 PM PDT
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That one thread that kept getting remade because it hit the post cap. That was ridiculous.


And blizz says they read the forums.

You want to go back to the dark ages of not hearing about anything from anyone ever?


Maybe GC can be like kalgan and make a post once every 8 months or so.

Sadly i fear that is the way it is going to become because these forums are so silly with every class just fishing for GC to answer them.


Can i now say i expect a Q&A for BM hunters for their woes ;D (sarcasm)

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  • 38. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:49:31 PM PDT
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Yay!! :D
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  • 39. Re: Shadow Priest Q & A   07/01/2009 06:49:45 PM PDT
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And blizz says they read the forums.

You want to go back to the dark ages of not hearing about anything from anyone ever?


Maybe GC can be like kalgan and make a post once every 8 months or so.

Sadly i fear that is the way it is going to become because these forums are so silly with every class just fishing for GC to answer them.



Please don't derail this thread into some flame fest, I beg of you. That's the last thing we need.

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