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  • 0. The numbers dont lie   06/18/2009 11:29:21 PM PDT
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SK gaming website provides rankings based on spec. This is basically just a compilation of blizzards armory site rankings, except those only work per battlegroup.

Choosing the options 3v3 bracket and US Region; searching for the comp Feral / Anyclass / Anyclass there are zero, nada, zilch teams. Hmm seems odd, how about we widen US Region to World to include Euro and the Asian regions? Still zero nada zilch.

Doing the same with 5v5 bracket, and unsurprisingly enough - exactly the same results. Sure, there are some feasible 2v2 comps - most notably feral/priest and feral/pally. There's around 50 2v2 teams with a feral in total, and of those some appear to be partnered with a deathknight so are more likely to be resto.

I've started grinding some resto gear and am hating it. On my horde druid, before i swapped to alliance, I've been feral since 2.0 when mangle was added. I was hoping to always be feral, I keep hanging on to my slim chances, hoping something will be improved in the following patch.

/cry


TLDR:

Please Blizzard, may I play feral (my main spec) in arena without being told to respec or reroll or gtfo?
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  • 1. Re: The numbers dont lie   06/18/2009 11:31:04 PM PDT
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Hi. My name is shadow priest. You're along for this ride too?

If not hope, what have you?
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  • 2. Re: The numbers dont lie   06/18/2009 11:32:32 PM PDT
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Hi. My name is shadow priest. You're along for this ride too?


No, your name is Ameila, I can see your name tag.

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  • Zul'jin
  • 4. Re: The numbers dont lie   06/18/2009 11:36:25 PM PDT
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Hello I am a demo warlock, Spriest and Fdruid GUYS, your other specs have extremely good representation my class hardly has 3%.


My spec has 0 players over 0 rating. http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/player/2/all/92/all/all/


Sorry but that argument no longer holds weight.

Blizzard has said that they are aiming to allow all specs viability in arenas.

Hybrids will outnumber pures by default. Pures will just have to deal with it and moan that they take more skill.
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  • Silvermoon
  • 5. Re: The numbers dont lie   06/18/2009 11:38:27 PM PDT
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The numbers are bad!

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  • Zul'jin
  • 7. Re: The numbers dont lie   06/18/2009 11:40:04 PM PDT
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GC stated they only want the highest hybrid to be at 12% representation.

I have a taunt as Meta too so I am a hybrid and according to DKs I already have the damage penalty.


lol, good luck with that :p

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  • 8. Re: The numbers dont lie   06/18/2009 11:42:58 PM PDT
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GC stated they only want the highest hybrid to be at 12% representation.


I don't recall ever saying that. I think I did say that hybrids may have high Arena representation because they can fill multiple roles.

Also be careful not to over-interpret the SK numbers. They are valuable for sure but they represent only 100 players out of several million. That's not to say Feral and other specs couldn't be higher, but I'm not sure you will ever see 10 of each class in the top 100, and even if you do, it is even less likely that 3.33 of those will be Feral.

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  • Zul'jin
  • 9. Re: The numbers dont lie   06/18/2009 11:43:33 PM PDT
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I don't recall ever saying that. I think I did say that hybrids may have high Arena representation because they can fill multiple roles.

Also be careful not to over-interpret the SK numbers. They are valuable for sure but they represent only 100 players out of several million. That's not to say Feral and other specs couldn't be higher, but I'm not sure you will ever see 10 of each class in the top 100, and even if you do, it is even less likely that 3.33 of those will be Feral.


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I'd say more but I think everythings been covered in various threads already.

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  • 11. Re: The numbers dont lie   06/18/2009 11:47:35 PM PDT
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The numbers I linked GC aren't top 100, they show the highest Meta locks in the world in 2s.

Or ALL of the meta locks and their ratings.


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  • Zul'jin
  • 12. Re: The numbers dont lie   06/18/2009 11:50:24 PM PDT
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The numbers I linked GC aren't top 100, they show the highest Meta locks in the world in 2s.

Or ALL of the meta locks and their ratings.


There's only one warlock with arena rating 0_o is that you? Or am I just reading this thing completely wrong. Cause it says 0-0-0 for everyones 2 3 5.

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  • Cenarion Circle
  • 14. Re: The numbers dont lie   06/18/2009 11:52:14 PM PDT
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Sorry but that argument no longer holds weight.

Blizzard has said that they are aiming to allow all specs viability in arenas.

Hybrids will outnumber pures by default. Pures will just have to deal with it and moan that they take more skill.


And they also said, as recently as the mage Q&A, that it is a priority to give every CLASS decent representation before focusing on mediocre specs.

In other words... you balance/feral druids, enhance/ele shamans, fire mages, holy/shadow priests, fury warriors, blood dks, and sub rogues are in the queue behind warlocks and hunters. Don't expect any fixes until those CLASSES get their much-needed love.
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  • 15. Re: The numbers dont lie   06/18/2009 11:53:09 PM PDT
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The numbers I linked GC aren't top 100, they show the highest Meta locks in the world in 2s.

Or ALL of the meta locks and their ratings.


I understand your concern about meta, I too have a warlock and understand why that spec does not work well for PVP.

However there is something to consider when you compare a hybrid to a pure.

When a hybrid complains about Spec "X" not working it means one of their entire roles is not working.

Each role requires a different set of gear.

So for warlocks, if Demo isn't working, we can switch to affliction. Especially with dual spec.

Now there is one role that the current incantion doesn't/shouldn't work for PVP i.e. Tanking.

Now if they wanted to improve Demo the major thing we would need is dispel protection.

Also having our interupt not tied to our pet would be nice, we have no MS (like hunters).

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  • 16. Re: The numbers dont lie   06/18/2009 11:53:44 PM PDT
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There's only one warlock with arena rating 0_o is that you? Or am I just reading this thing completely wrong. Cause it says 0-0-0 for everyones 2 3 5.
There is only one Metamorph spec in all of the top 100 teams from each bracket from each battlegroup from each continent.

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  • 17. Re: The numbers dont lie   06/18/2009 11:53:49 PM PDT
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I don't recall ever saying that. I think I did say that hybrids may have high Arena representation because they can fill multiple roles.

Also be careful not to over-interpret the SK numbers. They are valuable for sure but they represent only 100 players out of several million. That's not to say Feral and other specs couldn't be higher, but I'm not sure you will ever see 10 of each class in the top 100, and even if you do, it is even less likely that 3.33 of those will be Feral.


Now perhaps this self same druid can instead be allowed to achieve his dreams of shiny PVP armour through alternate means, instead of waiting in the line of the balance roller coaster.

Variety = good, arena = old = no fun.

This wouldn't be in preparation for some disarming WOTLK skills would it? My spider sense is tingling.
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  • 18. Re: The numbers dont lie   06/18/2009 11:54:27 PM PDT
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I don't recall ever saying that. I think I did say that hybrids may have high Arena representation because they can fill multiple roles.

Also be careful not to over-interpret the SK numbers. They are valuable for sure but they represent only 100 players out of several million. That's not to say Feral and other specs couldn't be higher, but I'm not sure you will ever see 10 of each class in the top 100, and even if you do, it is even less likely that 3.33 of those will be Feral.


Translation:

No, you can't play your feral spec in arena come 3.2 and expect to be viable.

Hey, I feel your pain, I run feral/disc in 2s atm.

I love feral but it's pretty much done (not that it was ever that great) in arena.
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  • 19. Re: The numbers dont lie   06/18/2009 11:55:16 PM PDT
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Why break something that was working? Feral was doing okay. Several patches of feral nerfs and the removal of our arena bracket isn't going to be good for us.
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