I'd rather have blizzard working on making other racials useful like the +skill professions

Well, the +5 here is probably because Fist Weapons are MH/OH only - whereas Swords/Maces have the added benefit of being both MH/OH and 2H.

The OP is really crying over nothing.

Hi I'm a troll.

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Hi I'm a troll.

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AHMYGAWD!

*flees*

A human complaining about racials? Really?

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Not too long ago, humans received a nerf to their weapon skill racial because it boosted both maces and swords by +5 expertise, it is now +3.
Judging from the PTR notes it seems that the orc axe specialization is going to be +5 to both fists and axes - is it really fair that the race who already is arguably the best dps race by far should not get the same treatment? Or even better, the human racial restored back to +5 to each?

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reasonable, but remember orcs are gods!!!!1111wtfbbq

I question why there are even 'pve' races to begin with. Look at Tauren and Troll racials, they cannot touch orcs in PvE at all, why?

Endurance was nerfed because it made tauren the best tank, well fine, then why do orc racials exist which make them the best DPS for several (lock, hunter, rogue, warrior, dk) classes?

Where is my Expertise bonus to Maces? Swords?

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I didn't realize there was a 2-handed fist weapon in the game.

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If I reply what I'm thinking, the banhammer would certainly follow.

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I didn't realize there was a 2-handed fist weapon in the game.

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It's a legendary weapon "The Big Fister", it's actually a very rude weapon.

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If I reply what I'm thinking, the banhammer would certainly follow.

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Perhaps it was a bit brash - but my point still stands.

As a result of there not being a 2-handed Fist Weapon, the +3 that humans receive from swords and maces effects the following:

1H Maces
1H Swords
2H Maces
2H Swords

The +5 that Orcs receive is the following:

1H Fist Weapons
1H Axes
2H Axes

Consider that there is one more major difference (in having an additional 2H) that humans receive above Orcs - making this more than balanced.

OP is trolling so hard he may need to check in with Fish & Game to see if he has exceeded his license limit.

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OP is trolling so hard he may need to check in with Fish & Game to see if he has exceeded his license limit.

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Meh - I think it was a reasonable question to ask.

Had he come out of the gate reasonably and not adding in the "QQ ORCS R BETTER" - I think this could have already been solved.

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OP is trolling so hard he may need to check in with Fish & Game to see if he has exceeded his license limit.

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I actually highly doubt Mov is trolling, he wouldn't waste his time here doing that. It is a fair question to ask and would love to see what the dev;s have to say about it.

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I actually highly doubt Mov is trolling, he wouldn't waste his time here doing that. It is a fair question to ask and would love to see what the dev;s have to say about it.

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And yet you, and nobody else, has seemed to attack my assertion of Fist Weapons being 1H only while Swords/Maces are 2H.

Face it - this doesn't need to be addressed because the question has already been answered.

Since every human racial is fairly nice, and since maces and swords are much more common than axes and fists, I see no problem with this compared to humans.

If you were going to complain, you should complain that orcs are getting yet another racial buff, while dwarves continue to have some fairly lackluster to downright bad racials.

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And Warlocks.
And Mages.

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You mean forced on warlocks, and many mages don't want it.