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I am more excited about maybe taking vengeance and switching it with command for zomgburst.

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lol disspellable I bet =)

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That's all fine and dandy, but did anything actually change?

Nope. Five buttons, cooldown restricted.

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Why would you play a class and try to have their combat system totally changed when you have so many other classes with different combat systems. Just saying.

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The intent is that macro will not work in 3.2 (for Ret paladins or Enhancement shamans). The intent is that you have to push the button at the right time, not just have the game push the button for you all the time.

Stopcasting a spell in this manner should reset your swing timer (at least for those two classes). We're not 100% sure at this time how the fix will work, but that's the intent or we would not have made this change.

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Is there something changing about Art of War that we don't know? Honestly, this macro shouldn't even be necessary if I'm following the changes properly -- if I haven't gotten an Art of War proc during Exo's 15 second cooldown, I'm doing something very, very wrong. End result: Art of War is always up when I want to Exorcism, which means nothing is changed except that I can't instant FoL as much anymore.

Edit for clarification: The AoW patch note said that it "now only applies to melee critical hits" but that doesn't seem to make much sense. What exactly does that mean?

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The intent is that macro will not work in 3.2 (for Ret paladins or Enhancement shamans). The intent is that you have to push the button at the right time, not just have the game push the button for you all the time.

Stopcasting a spell in this manner should reset your swing timer (at least for those two classes). We're not 100% sure at this time how the fix will work, but that's the intent or we would not have made this change.

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Is Exorcism still on a 15 second cooldown? Does it still trigger the global cooldown?

If the answer to the first question is yes than the AoW change is meaningless.

If the answer to the second question is yes then we will rarely ever find a free global cooldown to use exorcism considering crusader strikes appalling 4 second cooldown causing a train wreck of clashes.

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Is there something changing about Art of War that we don't know? Honestly, this macro shouldn't even be necessary if I'm following the changes properly -- if I haven't gotten an Art of War proc during Exo's 15 second cooldown, I'm doing something very, very wrong. End result: Art of War is always up when I want to Exorcism, which means nothing is changed except that I can't instant FoL as much anymore.

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I assume it will work like Sword and Board does for warriors where it refreshes the cooldown of the ability when it procs.

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The intent is that macro will not work in 3.2 (for Ret paladins or Enhancement shamans). The intent is that you have to push the button at the right time, not just have the game push the button for you all the time.

Stopcasting a spell in this manner should reset your swing timer (at least for those two classes). We're not 100% sure at this time how the fix will work, but that's the intent or we would not have made this change.

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hey gc... maybe you could make it so that we might care about using exorcism

that'd be great

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The intent is that macro will not work in 3.2 (for Ret paladins or Enhancement shamans). The intent is that you have to push the button at the right time, not just have the game push the button for you all the time.

Stopcasting a spell in this manner should reset your swing timer (at least for those two classes). We're not 100% sure at this time how the fix will work, but that's the intent or we would not have made this change.

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That right time will be when teh 15 second cooldown is up. There's no real "decision" here.

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Cool. Any word on whether the intended Totem-Stomping Macro nerf has made it into 3.2 yet?

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WELL its in the patch notes so id say yes

So, instead of the macro, you just need to jump.
Just like when playing a warrior, when you constantly jump and hit slam, if the proc is up, you get insta slam, if not, you lose nothing.

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The intent is that macro will not work in 3.2 (for Ret paladins or Enhancement shamans). The intent is that you have to push the button at the right time, not just have the game push the button for you all the time.

Stopcasting a spell in this manner should reset your swing timer (at least for those two classes). We're not 100% sure at this time how the fix will work, but that's the intent or we would not have made this change.

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So instead of a macro they'll just be using a mod to flash 'OMG ART OF WAR PROC PUSH EXO BUTTON' in huge letters all over the screen.

That isn't depth. Where's the beef?

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So, instead of the macro, you just need to jump.
Just like when playing a warrior, when you constantly jump and hit slam, if the proc is up, you get insta slam, if not, you lose nothing.

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lol thats pretty funny actually : )

So.

Ret is still faceroll.

I have buttons!

I hit them all!

I hit CS more often now cause of the reduced CD...


wth changed at all, cept I lost burst?

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So.

Ret is still faceroll.

I have buttons!

I hit them all!

I hit CS more often now cause of the reduced CD...


wth changed at all, cept I lost burst?

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you run out of mana faster and have less gcds free to plea and ss

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you run out of mana faster and have less gcds free to plea and ss

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Faaaaaaaantastic.

This sounds innovative and fun.

A very interesting play style!

/wrists

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The intent is that macro will not work in 3.2 (for Ret paladins or Enhancement shamans). The intent is that you have to push the button at the right time, not just have the game push the button for you all the time.

Stopcasting a spell in this manner should reset your swing timer (at least for those two classes). We're not 100% sure at this time how the fix will work, but that's the intent or we would not have made this change.

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And yet... it's still just faceroll.

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The intent is that macro will not work in 3.2 (for Ret paladins or Enhancement shamans). The intent is that you have to push the button at the right time, not just have the game push the button for you all the time.

Stopcasting a spell in this manner should reset your swing timer (at least for those two classes). We're not 100% sure at this time how the fix will work, but that's the intent or we would not have made this change.

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I just find it hard to believe that we will have any gcds to be casting exo in our rotation. since it has a 15s cd its dps compared to to other skills is very low, which makes it very, very low in priorities when dpsing. what exactly are you planning for this ability is really my question. is it just a situational tool for when u have a AoW proc up and are moving? it seems kind of lackluster unless the ability has been changed in some other way that we have yet to hear about.

* Final judgment reserved until my PTR testing, of course ;) *