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  • 60. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:14:37 AM PDT
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I am going to be honest with you all, and say something that will likely result in a great deal of argument. Over the last several weeks I've had the numerous claims of spirit weapons threat reduction only affecting white damage tested extensively. According to our tests, it does add 15% threat reduction to white damage, in addition to damage dealt by stormstrike and windfury procs.

If you have information that proves otherwise, please create a new post and I'll make sure it's looked into further. Lets please keep this thread on topic, however.


thanks for the post and information. to you this intel might seem minor, but it's nice to see blue visits to the forums and a blue reference bliz's analysis efforts. (nature abhors a vacuums and all that)
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  • 61. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:14:39 AM PDT
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that might be your quota, but we would appreciate it a little more often. :)


Yeah, I just figure I'll insult myself to beat you all to the punch. :P
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  • 62. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:14:47 AM PDT
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Are you asking if we're addressing more changes to the enchantment shaman in patch 2.3 than we mentioned was BlizzCon? Sorry, your question probably doesn't need clarification but I've not slept much lately.




The question being ask is about the 4 specific changes that were accidentally highlighted at Blizzcon- Shamanistic Focus, Spirit weapons, Mental Quickness, and Shamanistic Rage. The specifically want to know if that is all to really expect or is there more.
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  • 64. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:16:56 AM PDT
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Sooo....i guess this means bus shock is dead now.

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  • 65. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:18:10 AM PDT
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Yaaay Eyonix! You know, we really like you when you post constructive things. It's just that, being barbarian shaman and all, we get kindof...antsy.

Happy to see you posting, and bringing great news!

Edit: I can't type in my ecstacy to see a Blue.

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  • 66. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:18:27 AM PDT
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There will be changes that benfefit the elemental and restoration shaman as well. And yes, more enchancement improvements are absolutely going into patch 2.3.


that is what i wanted to hear, and i have yet to get my coffee as well..... (runs to coffee machine)

Thanks again :-)

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  • 67. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:27:07 AM PDT
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Are they going to make 2H axes and maces trainable in 2.3 for all shaman?(Resto and elemental included?)


Yes, all shaman will be able to equip 2-handed axes and maces (proper training required of course), without having to spend a talent. In it's place, a seemingly solid replacement talent called elemental focus. Basically, what it offers is this -- after landing a melee critical strike, you'll enter a "focused state". The focused state will reduce the mana cost of your next shock spell by 60%.
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  • 68. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:29:35 AM PDT
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If you have information that proves otherwise, please create a new post and I'll make sure it's looked into further. Lets please keep this thread on topic, however.

Thanks for the information, with all of the concerns about level 70 shamans, I was wondering if it was wise of me to continue leveling this character.

On topic... hmm.. so, now after 2.3 are you saying level 70 enhance shamans will be able to solo WC? ;-)

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  • 69. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:30:29 AM PDT
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Yes, all shaman will be able to equip 2-handed axes and maces (proper training required of course), without having to spend a talent. In it's place, a seemingly solid replacement talent called elemental focus. Basically, what it offers is this -- after landing a melee critical strike, you'll enter a "focused state". The focused state will reduce the mana cost of your next shock spell by 60%.


Oh, just thought of this, does that mean we will need to level the skill again?
IE ive been enhancement along time and have high skills, will i have to buy it and train it up or will it be like when we respec, its still there just not active till purchased ???


Q u o t e:

On topic... hmm.. so, now after 2.3 are you saying level 70 enhance shamans will be able to solo WC? ;-)
Only if your raid buffed :-P

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  • 70. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:30:33 AM PDT
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Yes, all shaman will be able to equip 2-handed axes and maces (proper training required of course), without having to spend a talent. In it's place, a seemingly solid replacement talent called elemental focus. Basically, what it offers is this -- after landing a melee critical strike, you'll enter a "focused state". The focused state will reduce the mana cost of your next shock spell by 60%.


Excellent news- this is the one i feared wouldn't make it in with all its bits intact.

This, coupled with the tier 0 elemental talent and Mental Quickness will make shocking for damage viable again without the fear of going OOM 15 seconds into the fight.
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  • 71. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:31:34 AM PDT
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Sooo....i guess this means bus shock is dead now.


Trust me, I've been doing this for a considerable amount of time. Many players will continue to hate me, and those shaman who vomit in their mouths by the mention of my name alone will continue to want to bus shock me. :P

We've received letters of players who refuse to use my npc for any purpose, and much much worse.... :P
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  • 72. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:31:45 AM PDT
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Yes, all shaman will be able to equip 2-handed axes and maces (proper training required of course), without having to spend a talent. In it's place, a seemingly solid replacement talent called elemental focus. Basically, what it offers is this -- after landing a melee critical strike, you'll enter a "focused state". The focused state will reduce the mana cost of your next shock spell by 60%.



Do you know if the mental quickness change made it through testing intact?


Edit : to the post above me, thats pretty sad that people would go to those lengths. But on the bright side, you're still here :).

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  • 73. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:32:53 AM PDT
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Trust me, I've been doing this for a considerable amount of time. Many players will continue to hate me, and those shaman who vomit in their mouths by the mention of my name alone will continue to want to bus shock me. :P

We've received letters of players who refuse to use my npc for any purpose, and much much worse.... :P

Wow......That made me giggle.
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  • 74. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:33:08 AM PDT
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First of all, that player was just a complete jerk. Now that I've made myself feel better by stating the obvious, allow me to say a few other things. The effectiveness of the enhancement shaman is certainly no where near as bad as is often perceived. With that being said, however, we not only recognizes that improvements are needed, we're working many of them into patch 2.3.

An example of one helpful adjustment surrounds shamanistic rage, which will also reduces all damage taken by 30% for the duration of the ability (30 seconds), in addition to its current effect. Spirit Weapons will also reduce melee threat by a total of 30% rather than 15%. More improvements should be expected as well.

So, I made this post, we're square for another six months, right? :P




SR is next to useless for PvP (where we need the adjustment more than PvE, imo) because it's very easily dispelled.
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  • 75. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:33:47 AM PDT
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Oh, just thought of this, does that mean we will need to level the skill again?
IE ive been enhancement along time and have high skills, will i have to buy it and train it up or will it be like when we respec, its still there just not active till purchased ???




I can follow up on this for you. But if my memory serves me right, you will not have to skill-up again. Please don't hold me to that, I'm only going on memory. :)
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  • 76. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:34:18 AM PDT
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Yes, all shaman will be able to equip 2-handed axes and maces (proper training required of course), without having to spend a talent. In it's place, a seemingly solid replacement talent called elemental focus. Basically, what it offers is this -- after landing a melee critical strike, you'll enter a "focused state". The focused state will reduce the mana cost of your next shock spell by 60%.


30% reduction on spirit weapons will be sweet. I have 3 questions though, there has been a general agreement that spririt weapons only works on white damage, is this working as intended?

Also, shamanistic rage is currently "magic," which would make the up and coming changes to the 41 pt great on paper, but useless vs any skilled opponents with a dispeller, heaven forbid it get spell stolen. It might actually be nice if it wasn't dispellable like "beast within". Thats what makes beast within so powerful, you just have to deal with it, which as is won't be the case with shamanistic rage.

Lastly, any chances of frostshock being changed from the only snare in the game with diminishing returns?

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  • 79. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:34:41 AM PDT
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what does "bus shock" mean?
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