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  • Dragonblight
  • 40. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 09:53:37 AM PDT
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Spirit Weapons will also reduce melee threat by a total of 30% rather than 15%. More improvements should be expected as well.


Am I remembering correctly that this was 20% at blizzcon? Meaning its been further buffed since then? Also, any word on its effect on Windfury?

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  • 41. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 09:54:57 AM PDT
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First of all, that player was just a complete jerk. Now that I've made myself feel better by stating the obvious, allow me to say a few other things. The effectiveness of the enhancement shaman is certainly no where near as bad as is often perceived. With that being said, however, we not only recognizes that improvements are needed, we're working many of them into patch 2.3.

An example of one helpful adjustment surrounds shamanistic rage, which will also reduces all damage taken by 30% for the duration of the ability (30 seconds), in addition to its current effect. Spirit Weapons will also reduce melee threat by a total of 30% rather than 15%. More improvements should be expected as well.

So, I made this post, we're square for another six months, right? :P




SWEET MOTHER OF GOD! EYONIX POSTED AND ACTUALLY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE CHANGES!

I believe the passage that follows this one is the bible is something like "Rivers of blood will flow in the streets from the non-believers... " or something similarily apocalyptic.

Good start... so.... more.... go on.. you know you have more to say little guy.... YOU CAN DO IT!
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  • 42. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 09:55:54 AM PDT
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First of all, that player was just a complete jerk. Now that I've made myself feel better by stating the obvious, allow me to say a few other things. The effectiveness of the enhancement shaman is certainly no where near as bad as is often perceived. With that being said, however, we not only recognizes that improvements are needed, we're working many of them into patch 2.3.

An example of one helpful adjustment surrounds shamanistic rage, which will also reduces all damage taken by 30% for the duration of the ability (30 seconds), in addition to its current effect. Spirit Weapons will also reduce melee threat by a total of 30% rather than 15%. More improvements should be expected as well.

So, I made this post, we're square for another six months, right? :P




OMG Eyonix!!
woot

Cya in six months bud.
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  • Altar of Storms
  • 43. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 09:56:47 AM PDT
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Will spirit weapons work with yellow damage as well?



i'd like to know also. windfury's threat generation is kinda huge.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110413644&postId=1103942967&sid=1#0 Suggestion Compilation Thread.
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  • 44. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 09:58:57 AM PDT
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i'd like to know also. windfury's threat generation is kinda huge.


The extra threat reduction is much appreciated! But yes, I would like to know the status of thus bug as well.
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  • Tortheldrin
  • 45. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 09:59:19 AM PDT
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First of all, that player was just a complete jerk. Now that I've made myself feel better by stating the obvious, allow me to say a few other things. The effectiveness of the enhancement shaman is certainly no where near as bad as is often perceived. With that being said, however, we not only recognizes that improvements are needed, we're working many of them into patch 2.3.

An example of one helpful adjustment surrounds shamanistic rage, which will also reduces all damage taken by 30% for the duration of the ability (30 seconds), in addition to its current effect. Spirit Weapons will also reduce melee threat by a total of 30% rather than 15%. More improvements should be expected as well.

So, I made this post, we're square for another six months, right? :P




i want to have your children!

Time to rock out with my Khaak out!!!
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  • 46. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 09:59:49 AM PDT
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If you came around daily we'd freak out less at a blue post, btw.

But things to note:

30% instead of the rumored 20%? Great to hear.

Still going to be 2.3 and not pushed back to 2.4 also like rumored? Further joy.

Actually, take that back. Go be a groundhog/hermit provided you're actively working on this!


It is going into 2.3, so don't worry about the rumors. I'll do my best to have a more active presence here. I've honestly been reading these boards extremely actively for quite some time now. If you're skeptical, no need to flame -- as it accomplishes little to nothing. I'm promising to do my best, despite many limitations and obstacles.
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  • 47. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:00:42 AM PDT
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I would be interested to know why shamanistic rage is set to reduce damage taken by 30% rather than some sort of anti-CC measure. Against any reasonably decent hunter, frost mage, warlock etc... you will live 30% longer but still remain snared/feared/stunned the entire time so you are simply prolonging what our current issue is. Not to mention a pet will instantly remove it without any interaction from it's owner anyway.
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  • 48. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:00:59 AM PDT
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Indeed, and i would like to know, if able if there are any plans beyond what we saw via screen shots at blizzcon.

Dont need to go into specifics, as i doubt you could, but i would just like to know if this is just a precursor to further changes in said 2.3 patch.

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Was gnomer, now its a 1/3 scale model of Chernobyl. GG on that one oh punt-able one.
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  • 49. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:03:08 AM PDT
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It is going into 2.3, so don't worry about the rumors. I'll do my best to have a more active presence here. I've honestly been reading these boards extremely actively for quite some time now. If you're skeptical, no need to flame -- as it accomplishes little to nothing. I'm promising to do my best, despite many limitations and obstacles.


Your a dragon, so you should have the FR man.
Your comment is very appreciated, as is your commitment to us.


Some Gnome:

Q u o t e:
THIS... IS... GNOMER!!!
/shinkick


Was gnomer, now its a 1/3 scale model of Chernobyl. GG on that one oh punt-able one.
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  • 51. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:07:43 AM PDT
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Will spirit weapons work with yellow damage as well?


I am going to be honest with you all, and say something that will likely result in a great deal of argument. Over the last several weeks I've had the numerous claims of spirit weapons threat reduction only affecting white damage tested extensively. According to our tests, it does add 15% threat reduction to white damage, in addition to damage dealt by stormstrike and windfury procs.

If you have information that proves otherwise, please create a new post and I'll make sure it's looked into further. Lets please keep this thread on topic, however.
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  • Burning Blade
  • 52. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:10:20 AM PDT
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When you say that you are working many of them into patch 2.3, do you mean there are more to follow?

And on that note, is the class as a whole going to receive any changes, or just enhancement shaman?

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  • 54. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:11:12 AM PDT
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Indeed, and i would like to know, if able if there are any plans beyond what we saw via screen shots at blizzcon.

Dont need to go into specifics, as i doubt you could, but i would just like to know if this is just a precursor to further changes in said 2.3 patch.


Are you asking if we're addressing more changes to the enchantment shaman in patch 2.3 than we mentioned was BlizzCon? Sorry, your question probably doesn't need clarification but I've not slept much lately.

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  • Deathwing
  • 55. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:11:56 AM PDT
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So, I made this post, we're square for another six months, right? :P




that might be your quota, but we would appreciate it a little more often. :)
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  • 56. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:12:20 AM PDT
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When you say that you are working many of them into patch 2.3, do you mean there are more to follow?

And on that note, is the class as a whole going to receive any changes, or just enhancement shaman?


I'll take this one Eyonix-

If the proposed changes to 2 handed weapons is implemented, then it is a change to the whole class. If not, there are various changes to Enhancement being made and some very MINOR adjustments to the other builds being made.
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  • 57. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:12:46 AM PDT
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Knowing that I am reading the Shaman forums at the same time as Eyonix makes me feel closer to God.
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  • 58. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:13:18 AM PDT
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When you say that you are working many of them into patch 2.3, do you mean there are more to follow?

And on that note, is the class as a whole going to receive any changes, or just enhancement shaman?


There will be changes that benfefit the elemental and restoration shaman as well. And yes, more enchancement improvements are absolutely going into patch 2.3.
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  • Burning Blade
  • 59. Re: Enhancement shaman - Low blow   09/26/2007 10:13:59 AM PDT
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There will be changes that benfefit the elemental and restoration shaman as well. And yes, more enchancement improvements are absolutely going into patch 2.3.




Excellent :D

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