I know some of these issues have been *acknowledged* but how about we get some concrete answers as to what you guys are going to do about these issues (that have been here for what seems like forever). We're tired of hearing "we're looking into it". We want answers. Buffing end game ranged weapons and giving us an extra 200ap on HM didn't even come close to fixing our DPS, and I'm sure you knew it wouldn't. We know you don't like to overbuff then have to nerf, but come on, it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that those buffs weren't going to be good enough.

The only reason I have a raid spot is because I know all the fights, I can maximize my DPS, and I'm an officer in my guild. We don't bring any other hunters because there is absolutely no point. Give us reasons to keep playing our hunters.

- Hunters spend 300-400g per week on arrows (on top of flasks/repairs) only to do craptastic DPS compared to other pure classes. I'm not lazy and I farm the gold required...but why are we the only class to pay to actually do DPS? 300-400g per week over the course of months adds up to a ton of gold we could be using for other things.

- Hunters have no unique utility to bring to raids. Misdirect and Survival's mana regen have been given to other classes. Trueshot Aura is a joke since DKs and Shamans give the same buff (overwriting ours, and also making aimed shot glyph useless...not that people use that glyph anyway). Why not give TSA a personal buff too? 15% for the hunter, 10% for everyone else or something of that nature.

- Hunters 4pc bonus is a complete joke compared to other classes. Why don't you just give us a static AP buff?

- Can we finally get Mechanicals added to our tracking? This should have been a no brainer to put in the game.

The difference with you guys is that you're hybrids lol

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The difference with you guys is that you're hybrids lol

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what u say is true, however maybe they dont like having to paly healer or tank,

hunters are screwed when it comes to having to level an alt

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- Hunters 4pc bonus is a complete joke compared to other classes. Why don't you just give us a static AP buff?

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i will give you my account if the hunter 4 pc is worse than the Shadow priests.

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i will give you my account if the hunter 4 pc is worse than the Shadow priests.

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lol

GC, Why should PVE hunters bother playing?

So they can roll on every item.

woah woah woah, every item?

my guild only lets me roll on every other item...

There may be something to the OP's point. I've done ulduar once or twice (just got back to wow for the summer) and I'm already doing close to the damage of our hunters (which have been raiding Ulduar since release I believe). On the other hand so have several other people in the guild, but our hunters still top the meters consistently.

if your dps is low as a hunter currently, you either need to L2P or play a different game.

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if your dps is low as a hunter currently, you either need to L2P or play a different game.

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if your dps is low as a hunter currently, you either need to L2P or play a different game.

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right mr catered to class. I hope we can get the same treatment as ya class do. i.e. handed the best PVE DPS on a plate, along with the best AOE in the game.

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right mr catered to class. I hope we can get the same treatment as ya class do. i.e. handed the best PVE DPS on a plate, along with the best AOE in the game.

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I fail to see hunter dps as being too low.

I was with two adequately but not super geared Hunters doing VoA and one of them pushed out 5.5k dps and the other pushed out 5.9k. Maybe you're the problem.

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right mr catered to class. I hope we can get the same treatment as ya class do. i.e. handed the best PVE DPS on a plate, along with the best AOE in the game.

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That doesn't make his point any less valid.

Hunter DPS is fine.

Bad players are bad, etc.

The only legitimate problem I see here is ammunition costs.

Now if you want to bring up the fact that only one of your trees is really viable in raiding, then I'm willing to listen.

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That doesn't make his point any less valid.

Hunter DPS is fine.

Bad players are bad, etc.

The only legitimate problem I see here is ammunition costs.

Now if you want to bring up the fact that only one of your trees is really viable in raiding, then I'm willing to listen.

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pretty much this, but the claim that hunter dps is low is false.

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I fail to see hunter dps as being too low.

I was with two adequately but not super geared Hunters doing VoA and one of them pushed out 5.5k dps and the other pushed out 5.9k. Maybe you're the problem.

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It's hunters, c'mon.

Since when are they happy about anything?

If Hunter dps is fine then you as a rogue would be ok with swapping your dps position with ours.....right?

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If Hunter dps is fine then you as a rogue would be ok with swapping your dps position with ours.....right?

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first off, this is clearly not my main. Second, good hunters can compete with rogues on some fights, and can beat them on ranged friendly ones, you, like most of the constant whiners on this board are probably just bad.

I think Hunter PvE damage is probably the most balanced atm. The classes beating hunters are those commonly sighted as in need of a nerf and those below are those that could use buffs, but hunters in most fights do pretty competent dps, especially considering in many fights they are doing things besides just dpsing (killing trees, ranged tanking, breaking flash freezes, kiting adds, etc.).

We also do have 2 viable, as in almost dead equal, PvE specs in MM/SV. I am pretty content with my hunter in raiding. In some fights we are at the top and in some we aren't, but I haven't felt useless yet (with that said, we haven't done most of the hard modes yet). I think as far as PvE goes many other classes should be balanced around hunters.