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Maybe its not the most important, but if you think that it didn't matter, you are clueless...

Whatever helps u sleep at night. (thanks for the balance)

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To be honest it didn't. There are two rapid aoe damage sources in Freya, one being sunbeam (move out of it) the other being ground stomp (you'd face at most one). Other than that the fight is pretty simple to execute on 10 man zerg or non-zerg, I was actually pretty surprised.

I imagine this video had a bit of RNG beforehand where they got the lasher packs first.

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The class of the healer is not the salient point of the strategy used.

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on a side note, didn't you say this wouldn't happen with future encounters? Any plans to adjust this fight to make this impossible?

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Maybe its not the most important, but if you think that it didn't matter, you are clueless...

Whatever helps u sleep at night. (thanks for the balance)

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They killed Freya in 76 seconds.

This means that there was very little healing to be done.

With a little luck, an eleshammy could have kept the raid up while DPSing.

This zerg has nothing to do with how good priests are =/

If he wants to be ignorant and believe the numbers, when in reality its as clear as light, there is nothing I can do about it.

Just look at elemental shamans when wrath came out... LOL, no ele shamans are fine, we don't know what your talking about.... 3 months later, here is 30% damage increase, sorry about that guys, we had no idea??? Oh and your still not doing so hot? Heres a hot fix.

.... Riiiightt.....

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If he wants to be ignorant and believe the numbers, when in reality its as clear as light, there is nothing I can do about it.

Just look at elemental shamans when wrath came out... LOL, no ele shamans are fine, we don't know what your talking about.... 3 months later, here is 30% damage increase, sorry about that guys, we had no idea??? Oh and your still not doing so hot? Heres a hot fix.

.... Riiiightt.....

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...Are you even talking about healing now, or just whining?

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...Are you even talking about healing now, or just whining?

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Well I'm not going to lie, I definitely went a strange direction. (Sadly did not see the video of the fight)

It does not deny the fact that certain advantages other healing specs have. The holy priests in my guild can solo heal many fights in ulduar, simply b/c he has the spell book to do so.

I'll leave this thread simply b/c I'm an idiot, still fighting for equality but failing miserably. I'll go back to my corner.

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(Sadly did not see the video of the fight)

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Nothing happened during this zerg that a resto shammy couldn't have handled. I agree that resto shammies need a boost (and so does Blizzard, if you've read anything that they've said on the subject), but this is a completely poor example.

Maybe you should watch the video? =/

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If he wants to be ignorant and believe the numbers, when in reality its as clear as light, there is nothing I can do about it.

Just look at elemental shamans when wrath came out... LOL, no ele shamans are fine, we don't know what your talking about.... 3 months later, here is 30% damage increase, sorry about that guys, we had no idea??? Oh and your still not doing so hot? Heres a hot fix.

.... Riiiightt.....

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Ele shaman got nerfed when Wrath came out because they were doing 10k DPS.

It was post dual-spec that their dps hit the can.

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We'd rather keep encounter specifics like this in the dungeon and raid forum, but most likely we will fix it.

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I Personally don't see much really wrong with this. The MT / OT don't take very much damage with Freya, and the majority of the damage is AoE. As a result it would make sense that a priest would be ideal to heal it. I really see this as being akin to a Holy Paladin solo healing Patchwerk on 10-man.

Yes, we're talking hard-mode. We're also likely talking about a group of people who are geared with 25-man Ulduar gear, know the fight extremely well, and prepared for it.

Considering that the gear-level of 10-man ulduar is on average sub 25-naxx, anyone 25-ulduar would already have a significant advantage. Guilds from 25-naxx were doing 10-man hardmodes almost immediately.

so, to the OP I say... So what, it's one fight - that doesn't mean priests are OP.

Lets also not forget that Freya 10-MH in their kind of gear isn't that difficult to begin with.

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Freya 10 hard mode isent that hard anyways =/

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I generally do anywhere from 39 to 45 percent of all raid healing depends on the boss fight.

Im kinda suprised why retards like you didn't complain when a shaman did the same thing in 10 man zerg

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So...similar to OS 3d zerg, a US guild has zerged Freya 10man Hard Mode and surprise surprise a priest healed it.

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Our guild did the OS 3D strat. Healing wasn't the big issue. Dumping enough DPS to beat the timer was the hard part. Healing was a breeze. Any class could do it.

Any healer could have done this fight except >maybe< a holy paladin, but even then if rng gives lashers first like in this video, it would be trivial to heal. Having a holy priest didn't enable this kill, having 8 awesomely geared DPS + MS did.

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If this strat promts a Mortal Strike effect nerf across the board that carries across to PvP, I'll be a happy panda.

50% per reduction is ridiculous. Those things shouldn't exceed 35% under any condition.

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this was our whole secret intention

IMO nerf freya, I bet she did even more healing than the unstoppable priest!

this injustice must be rectified!

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Any healer could have done this fight except >maybe< a holy paladin, but even then if rng gives lashers first like in this video, it would be trivial to heal. Having a holy priest didn't enable this kill, having 8 awesomely geared DPS + MS did.

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Holy paladin could pretty easily do this with proper add control. The only dangerous part about a paladin healing it (Note: Shaman have this exact same weakness since Cheal is trash) is that you can only top off one target at a time, and must top off 9 targets before some other AoE/ability kills someone. If you have a melee-heavy group with Judgement of Light from a ret, however, that would be cake.

Saying the priest did the "bulk" of the healing and that the ret paladin only "slightly" healed is kind of misrepresenting the very parse you linked...

Priest eff. heal: 399k (50%) vs paladin 253k (32%). The paladin actually did more total healing than the priest, it just happened to be useless, because the raid simply wasn't taking enough damage.