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Nasgrim

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Llane

60. Re: MLG Representation: Surprise! RMP domina 06/06/2009 10:42:33 AM PDT

Q u o t e:

Why would MLG invite cleave teams?

They're trying to entertain people.

Nobody wants to see 25 second facerolls.

hahahhahahahaha, watch the matches...Its so hard to ToTT korea-AP-PoM open on someone.

One of the matches the announcer even said, I quote "ooo they got koreaned".

Yeah, PvP is in a special place now.

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Florimel

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Ysera

61. Re: MLG Representation: Surprise! RMP domina 06/06/2009 10:49:55 AM PDT

you never stop making stupid threads do you?

Nalmeena

Lightning's Blade

62. Re: MLG Representation: Surprise! RMP domina 06/06/2009 10:56:12 AM PDT

LoL the Ensidia frost mage did 3x the damage of Azazel and twice the damage of his own rogue all 3 matches. And mages claim they need buffs?

IB4 frost mages and Affix claim that mages need mortal strike! ^_^

Thrash

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Gorefiend

63. Re: MLG Representation: Surprise! RMP domina 06/06/2009 11:30:18 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
LoL the Ensidia frost mage did 3x the damage of Azazel and twice the damage of his own rogue all 3 matches. And mages claim they need buffs?

IB4 frost mages and Affix claim that mages need mortal strike! ^_^

so what other comps are mages viable in?

i'm not saying they need buffs but i can understand their frustration, it's why i rerolled in s3 because unless you can find a good priest AND rogue, you aren't allowed in arena.

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Aerie Peak

64. Re: MLG Representation: Surprise! RMP domina 06/06/2009 11:35:41 AM PDT

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so what other comps are mages viable in?

i'm not saying they need buffs but i can understand their frustration, it's why i rerolled in s3 because unless you can find a good priest AND rogue, you aren't allowed in arena.

So is it that they're not viable in other comps or that they just excel so well with rmp?

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Ghostcrawler

Blizzard Poster

65. Re: MLG Representation: Surprise! RMP domina 06/06/2009 12:22:51 PM PDT

We think it's an interesting phenomenon. A lot of the complaints you see, especially in these forums, don't always jive with who is actually winning in Arena (though to be fair, sometimes they do).

There has been so much discussion about double melee "Cleave" teams and the death of casters while RMP has continued to be really strong if not dominant in 3s. Now maybe it's only at the lower ratings where it's an issue, or maybe players are noticing an up-and-coming trend while the tournaments tend to emphasize groups who have a lot of experience playing together.

I'm not saying everything is perfect, and ideally we'd love to see more mixed comps than RMP so often. But it is interesting when the Internet buzz doesn't always match who is winning.

Ghostcrawler
Lead Systems Designer

Floob

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Jaedenar

66. Re: MLG Representation: Surprise! RMP domina 06/06/2009 12:25:52 PM PDT

Oh noes nerf inc. Ret pallies are fine tho.

Imakewater

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Azshara

67. Re: MLG Representation: Surprise! RMP domina 06/06/2009 12:25:53 PM PDT

ROFL CLEAVE

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Stormrage

69. Re: MLG Representation: Surprise! RMP domina 06/06/2009 12:26:21 PM PDT

in before "we've been saying RMP is OP forever now."

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Icenasty

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Thunderhorn

70. Re: MLG Representation: Surprise! RMP domina 06/06/2009 12:27:23 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
We think it's an interesting phenomenon. A lot of the complaints you see, especially in these forums, don't always jive with who is actually winning in Arena (though to be fair, sometimes they do).

There has been so much discussion about double melee "Cleave" teams and the death of casters while RMP has continued to be really strong if not dominant in 3s. Now maybe it's only at the lower ratings where it's an issue, or maybe players are noticing an up-and-coming trend while the tournaments tend to emphasize groups who have a lot of experience playing together.

I'm not saying everything is perfect, and ideally we'd love to see more mixed comps than RMP so often. But it is interesting when the Internet buzz doesn't always match who is winning.

I pray you were just watching the stream. I don't even think that match clocked in at 10 secs. Long live Cleave.

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Nalmeena

Lightning's Blade

71. Re: MLG Representation: Surprise! RMP domina 06/06/2009 12:27:49 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
We think it's an interesting phenomenon. A lot of the complaints you see, especially in these forums, don't always jive with who is actually winning in Arena (though to be fair, sometimes they do).

There has been so much discussion about double melee "Cleave" teams and the death of casters while RMP has continued to be really strong if not dominant in 3s. Now maybe it's only at the lower ratings where it's an issue, or maybe players are noticing an up-and-coming trend while the tournaments tend to emphasize groups who have a lot of experience playing together.

I'm not saying everything is perfect, and ideally we'd love to see more mixed comps than RMP so often. But it is interesting when the Internet buzz doesn't always match who is winning.

Here's one constant between RMP and the other teams in this tournament: Burst

RMP has burst damage (mage) AND burst healing (priest). The other caster teams playing destruction lock also have burst.

Nasgrim

< Divine Twilight >

Llane

72. Re: MLG Representation: Surprise! RMP domina 06/06/2009 12:31:22 PM PDT

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So one comp with one dps caster class in one bracket is strong and that's enough to say dps casters are not hurting?

RMP has been an insane 3s team since the beginning anyway.

The Rogue/Lock/Shaman team swept 3-0 yesterday vs RMP?

There are 2 warlock based teams, 4 RMP, 1 "hunter" cleave team.

One of the PMR is playing DK/R/P right now, vs another PMR, they are 1-1 now.

There are more casters in the tournament then plate melee classes....

So? What do we ascertain from that?

Spex

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Skullcrusher

73. Re: MLG Representation: Surprise! RMP domina 06/06/2009 12:31:59 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
We think it's an interesting phenomenon. A lot of the complaints you see, especially in these forums, don't always jive with who is actually winning in Arena (though to be fair, sometimes they do).

There has been so much discussion about double melee "Cleave" teams and the death of casters while RMP has continued to be really strong if not dominant in 3s. Now maybe it's only at the lower ratings where it's an issue, or maybe players are noticing an up-and-coming trend while the tournaments tend to emphasize groups who have a lot of experience playing together.

I'm not saying everything is perfect, and ideally we'd love to see more mixed comps than RMP so often. But it is interesting when the Internet buzz doesn't always match who is winning.

RMP is powerful because they can CC train you all day. It still requires at least some thinking to it. I'd rather be beaten by a skilled RMP than faceroll cleave who just sits on your clothie until its dead.

By the way, I highly doubt it's the mage making RMP so powerful. Sheep just doesn't share DR with the other two (more represented) priest and rogue.

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Black Dragonflight

74. Re: MLG Representation: Surprise! RMP domina 06/06/2009 12:32:38 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

Here's one constant between RMP and the other teams in this tournament: Burst

RMP has burst damage (mage) AND burst healing (priest). The other caster teams playing destruction lock also have burst.

Every team there has burst.

RMP has not even gotten close to beating Dk/Bm/Paladin even though the RMPs have obviously out played them.

Sanctified

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Firetree

76. Re: MLG Representation: Surprise! RMP domina 06/06/2009 12:33:31 PM PDT

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I pray you were just watching the stream. I don't even think that match clocked in at 10 secs. Long live Cleave.

And RMP did great the next match; they were never in any danger.

The RMP played very poorly in the first and third matches. Their Priest was in a REALLY bad position both times, and nobody even tried to peel the DK/R/P's Rogue in the third match. That Rogue was on the Priest the entire time.

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Wintermute

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Doomhammer

77. Re: MLG Representation: Surprise! RMP domina 06/06/2009 12:33:58 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
We think it's an interesting phenomenon. A lot of the complaints you see, especially in these forums, don't always jive with who is actually winning in Arena (though to be fair, sometimes they do).

There has been so much discussion about double melee "Cleave" teams and the death of casters while RMP has continued to be really strong if not dominant in 3s. Now maybe it's only at the lower ratings where it's an issue, or maybe players are noticing an up-and-coming trend while the tournaments tend to emphasize groups who have a lot of experience playing together.

I'm not saying everything is perfect, and ideally we'd love to see more mixed comps than RMP so often. But it is interesting when the Internet buzz doesn't always match who is winning.

Tournament play is a completely different animal than ladder play. It's a completely different meta game, and in most cases, the ground rules are different do to the more narrow gear selection.

Even the tournament realms, which were a ladder, were different than live, because gear was so consistent (and lacked most of the PvE options that people employ).

The results from one environment and the results from another can be radically different and still perfectly representative of their own environment, because the environments are different enough in important ways.

Merkaba

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Stormreaver

79. Re: MLG Representation: Surprise! RMP domina 06/06/2009 12:34:32 PM PDT

Cleave is currently wrecking Hydra and they are using weapons that are not even KT level.

Now insert 2350+ arena weps on each cleave member, and then see why people complain about cleave even when RMP is winning tournaments. We don't all play on Tournament Realms GC.

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