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Avalo

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Maelstrom

0. "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/23/2009 04:55:33 PM PDT

... in pvp right now"

- GC

I'm sorry if this is taking you horribly out of context, but that'll probably do it for me.

No i'm not cancelling my account, and i'll still even BG and arena when i have an afternoon with nothing better to do.

No i'm not going to go an another diatribe about the wrongs and rights of lich king pvp.

I'm just going to say i'm really disappointed. Other than the achievement points, i now have absolutely no motivation to continue to pvp in this game. Maybe next expansion you guys will figure out that gib-festing + infiinite healing doesn't make an interesting game, it makes for a highly frustrating game where you simply obliterate someone within a somewhat coordinated silence or CC chain or right on the jump when you mindlessly spam all your cooldowns.

For me, pvp is officially way on the backburner.

[ Post edited by Avalo ]

To the limit.

Jaderine

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Sentinels

2. Re: "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/23/2009 04:59:40 PM PDT

I don't think Blizzard knows what they want PvP to be. That's why I think they need to disable it, then rework everything after they figure out what they want it to be. You can't fix something if you don't know how you want to fix it.

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Opimo

Alterac Mountains

3. Re: "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/23/2009 05:01:41 PM PDT

Burst isn't a problem in pvp right now

Adrine

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Cenarion Circle

4. Re: "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/23/2009 05:06:42 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Burst isn't a problem in pvp right now

Not at level 29 it's not.

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Rubenti

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Frostmourne

5. Re: "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/23/2009 05:17:32 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
... in pvp right now"

- GC

I'm sorry if this is taking you horribly out of context, but that'll probably do it for me.

No i'm not cancelling my account, and i'll still even BG and arena when i have an afternoon with nothing better to do.

No i'm not going to go an another diatribe about the wrongs and rights of lich king pvp.

I'm just going to say i'm really disappointed. Other than the achievement points, i now have absolutely no motivation to continue to pvp in this game. Maybe next expansion you guys will figure out that gib-festing + infiinite healing doesn't make an interesting game, it makes for a highly frustrating game where you simply obliterate someone within a somewhat coordinated silence or CC chain or right on the jump when you mindlessly spam all your cooldowns.

For me, pvp is officially way on the backburner.

Yeah I feel the same, PvP is absolutely terrible right now and Death Knights are pretty much solely responsible for this.

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Nejalya

Feathermoon

6. Re: "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/23/2009 05:32:08 PM PDT

DK's are rogue 2.0

Concertina

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Anetheron

7. Re: "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/23/2009 05:40:31 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

Yeah I feel the same, PvP is absolutely terrible right now and Death Knights are pretty much solely responsible for this.

DK's ....

I'm so sick of that class.

My arena rating sucks - I'm trolling from Iraq - put 2 and 2 together.

Nayer

< Pseudonym >

Executus

8. Re: "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/24/2009 08:56:02 AM PDT

Did GC make that quote during the maintenance window? Because, during the maintenance window, when no servers are up, this would be true.

Luxradin

< Stop Snitchin >

Nathrezim

9. Re: "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/24/2009 08:58:31 AM PDT

if burst is so "out of control" why are double dps teams near extinct.

Answer: Healers are still near immortal. Nobody want the TBC days of the super mana game, immortal healers to return.

http://www.realmhistory.net/arena-statistics/team-setup.html

LOOK AT THAT 2k+ OVERWHELMING DOUBLE DPS REPRESENTATION DAWG. BURST IS TO HIGH, HEALERS CAN'T KEEP UP.
retard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrI7QUJfkvI
lol

Ghostcrawler

Blizzard Poster

10. Re: "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/24/2009 09:37:20 AM PDT

Players complained about burst and DKs last season and had every right to. We think both are in a better place now.

There are definitely some situations where you can get into with a class and die too quickly. There are also situations where CC or healing or dispelling are too dominant. Arena balance isn't perfect and we'll continue to make changes as we go along. However, we don't feel like you can just summarize all of this season as being too bursty (which we do think happened last season before people got enough resilience). If you look at a lot of the complaints coming out of Arenas right now, they are about healing (Disc, Resto druids and various paladin specs at least) and melee (or at least Arms, Unholy, Ret and rogues) vs. casters.

This will probably come across as overly-sarcastic and I'll get flamed for it for a few weeks, but make sure you catch up on what the cool kids are actually talking about this season and not just parroting what everyone was saying about PvP a few months ago. ;)

Ghostcrawler
Lead Systems Designer

Daiza

< That Boss Touched Me >

Gilneas

11. Re: "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/24/2009 09:38:58 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
Players complained about burst and DKs last season and had every right to. We think both are in a better place now.

There are definitely some situations where you can get into with a class and die too quickly. There are also situations where CC or healing or dispelling are too dominant. Arena balance isn't perfect and we'll continue to make changes as we go along. However, we don't feel like you can just summarize all of this season as being too bursty (which we do think happened last season before people got enough resilience). If you look at a lot of the complaints coming out of Arenas right now, they are about healing (Disc, Resto druids and various paladin specs at least) and melee (or at least Arms, Unholy, Ret and rogues) vs. casters.

This will probably come across as overly-sarcastic and I'll get flamed for it for a few weeks, but make sure you catch up on what the cool kids are actually talking about this season and not just parroting what everyone was saying about PvP a few months ago. ;)

Boom.

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Genericscrub

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Cho'gall

12. Re: "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/24/2009 09:40:24 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
Players complained about burst and DKs last season and had every right to. We think both are in a better place now.

You need to re-think that.

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Metáknight

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Alleria

13. Re: "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/24/2009 09:41:33 AM PDT

Q u o t e:

You need to re-think that.

Wait, you want the abomination that is Shadowfrost back?

You know this generation of kids is ****ed up when 8th graders know the street names of the qualities of weed and the first thing they shave isn't on their face

Cakenpie

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Laughing Skull

14. Re: "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/24/2009 09:41:57 AM PDT

Q u o t e:

Boom.

Headshot.

I'm doing my best, super sweet pose for you right now, bro.

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Genericscrub

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Cho'gall

15. Re: "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/24/2009 09:44:48 AM PDT

Q u o t e:

Wait, you want the abomination that is Shadowfrost back?

No, burst is still over the top.

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Temna

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Dragonblight

16. Re: "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/24/2009 09:45:27 AM PDT

Q u o t e:

Headshot.

Sniping's a good job mate. :)

Metáknight

< Trucido >

Alleria

17. Re: "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/24/2009 09:46:05 AM PDT

Q u o t e:

No, burst is still over the top.

It is in some cases, but you can't deny that the amount of sources it's coming from has decreased.

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Nocc

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Kel'Thuzad

18. Re: "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/24/2009 09:47:09 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
Players complained about burst and DKs last season and had every right to. We think both are in a better place now.

There are definitely some situations where you can get into with a class and die too quickly. There are also situations where CC or healing or dispelling are too dominant. Arena balance isn't perfect and we'll continue to make changes as we go along. However, we don't feel like you can just summarize all of this season as being too bursty (which we do think happened last season before people got enough resilience). If you look at a lot of the complaints coming out of Arenas right now, they are about healing (Disc, Resto druids and various paladin specs at least) and melee (or at least Arms, Unholy, Ret and rogues) vs. casters.

This will probably come across as overly-sarcastic and I'll get flamed for it for a few weeks, but make sure you catch up on what the cool kids are actually talking about this season and not just parroting what everyone was saying about PvP a few months ago. ;)

Burst is a problem we don't want to be killed in 2-4 globals, it's not fun it's getting to the point where it doesn't even feel worth it to try to play anymore.

Genericscrub

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Cho'gall

19. Re: "We don't think burst is a problem... 05/24/2009 09:47:38 AM PDT

Q u o t e:

It is in some cases, but you can't deny that the amount of sources it's coming from has decreased.

Of course, but it's still a problem, the devs just don't think so for some reason.

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