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Gungarr

< Pack Mentality >

Andorhal

0. Blizzard hates slower progressing guilds 05/26/2009 09:02:29 PM PDT

this may sound like some nerd rage... and well... i guess it is... and face it, if you're here reading in the forums your as much a nerd as i am... now, i dont know if blizzard even pays attention to this stuff so i may be wasting my time... not that i would expect them to listen anyway... they will do what they see as most profitable
anyway... the point...

i am not a player who can raid 10 or 25 mans everyday... my guild cannot do such things... i despise the fact that blizzard removes rewards like proto drakes from raid achievements cuz they will be "too easy" with the gear from the latest content patch... its still hard for the people who cant get on everyday with their guilds to plow through the content... im a completionist in any game i play... now because my guild is slower to progress due to time constraints i cant complete everything... ya know i wouldnt even care if they changed the reward slightly so you would know the difference of who did it the "easy way" or not... give me a "sick" black proto drake that only goes the normal 280% instead of the 310% one... fine... change the ZA mount a little bit... make it a rare drop instead of a timed thing... ok... but blatantly removing stuff from the game is complete crap... not only is blizzard making less harcore players pissed off but holding us back from other achievements as well... its getting harder for me to get the 100 mount achievement with less mounts in the game... i seem to be focusing on mount rewards here cuz thats the latest thing i noticed... anyway ive ranted enough... respond or dont, i dont care, and neither does blizzard... they know they will get our money every month anyway

Shadesra

< The Boondock Saints >

Akama

1. Re: Blizzard hates slower progressing guilds 05/26/2009 09:04:41 PM PDT

ok before i read this just saying you need to hold off on the ellipses haha

"We love you too. "

-Crygil

Kelfarr

< Denied >

Bronzebeard

3. Re: Blizzard hates slower progressing guilds 05/26/2009 09:12:17 PM PDT

You don't need to raid every day, 2-3 times per week is enough to clear ulduar within the first month.

Douki

< Caffeine >

Staghelm

5. Re: Blizzard hates slower progressing guilds 05/26/2009 09:30:24 PM PDT

Blizz has done so many things for casual guilds. In the past they've added transition raids like ZA and ZG to help guilds get more gear for harder content, they nerfed content so casual guilds could complete BC content before wrath. They've made raid content easier, added 10mans and added badges and tier tokens so you don't have to raid every week due to bad RNG luck.

Rewards like the proto drakes are all hardcore guilds have to shoot for now, let's at least give them that.

[ Post edited by Douki ]

Heston

< Impervious >

Ner'zhul

7. Re: Blizzard hates slower progressing guilds 05/26/2009 09:34:47 PM PDT

Too....many....elipses.

I've never told a lie, and that makes me a liar.

Tholofonos

Hellscream

8. Re: Blizzard hates slower progressing guilds 05/26/2009 09:38:12 PM PDT

So you're complaining that a reward for an achievement designed to recognize the hardcore and committed raiders does what it's supposed to?

*smack*

Q u o t e:
Spreadsheet. It'll take you under 15 minutes to get your answer, and that's if you type with your nose.

Catalept

< Noctis Erus >

Aman'Thul

9. Re: Blizzard hates slower progressing guilds 05/26/2009 09:39:12 PM PDT

If you're a completionist who doesn't have the time to go hardcore, you're in for a lot of disappointment :p

Besides, the raiding proto-drakes are supposed to be stupidly hard... they're a status-symbol for basement-dwellers and the socially inept. If you want a 310 mount, you'll only have to wait until October to get it :)

Aquenita

< The Goonìes >

Haomarush

10. Re: Blizzard hates slower progressing guilds 05/26/2009 09:39:16 PM PDT

But they love turtles.

"Don't sweat petty things. Or pet sweaty things."

Vilary

< Outcast Order >

Earthen Ring

11. Re: Blizzard hates slower progressing guilds 05/26/2009 09:42:31 PM PDT

Snide comment on how Blizzard doesn't care, check.
Snide comment on how all Blizz cares about is money, check.
Overall contradictory opinion to, oh, I dunno, everything else int he game, double check.

Diagnosis: Can i have your stuff?

Seriously, if you're a completionist, this isn't the game for you. Stuff changes every week and there are items you'll just never be able to obtain due to circumstance. This post is screaming "loot envy" more so than "Why shouldn't I be able to get X?"

Hardcore achievements are meant for hardcore people. Are you going to complain that you can't get a Frost Wyrm mount because you don't want to do Arena?

Relax, realize you can't have everything, and enjoy the game.

"If you ever fall off the Sears Tower, just go real limp, because maybe you'll look like a dummy and people will try to catch you because, hey, free dummy." - "Deep Thoughts," Jack Handy

Catalept

< Noctis Erus >

Aman'Thul

12. Re: Blizzard hates slower progressing guilds 05/26/2009 09:50:48 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

Hardcore achievements are meant for hardcore people. Are you going to complain that you can't get a Frost Wyrm mount because you don't want to do Arena?

... that reminds me... how come raiders get a manky old proto-drake, but arenascrubs score a totally sick frost wyrm.

BLIZZARD HATES RAIDERS!

... or something...

... hopefully we'll get a frost wyrm for T9 :(

Crygil

Blizzard Poster

13. Re: Blizzard hates slower progressing guilds 05/26/2009 11:36:14 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
this may sound like some nerd rage... and well... i guess it is... and face it, if you're here reading in the forums your as much a nerd as i am... now, i dont know if blizzard even pays attention to this stuff so i may be wasting my time... not that i would expect them to listen anyway... they will do what they see as most profitable
anyway... the point...

We do pay attention to this sort of stuff.

Q u o t e:
i am not a player who can raid 10 or 25 mans everyday... my guild cannot do such things... i despise the fact that blizzard removes rewards like proto drakes from raid achievements cuz they will be "too easy" with the gear from the latest content patch... its still hard for the people who cant get on everyday with their guilds to plow through the content... im a completionist in any game i play... now because my guild is slower to progress due to time constraints i cant complete everything... ya know i wouldnt even care if they changed the reward slightly so you would know the difference of who did it the "easy way" or not... give me a "sick" black proto drake that only goes the normal 280% instead of the 310% one... fine... change the ZA mount a little bit... make it a rare drop instead of a timed thing... ok... but blatantly removing stuff from the game is complete crap... not only is blizzard making less harcore players pissed off but holding us back from other achievements as well... its getting harder for me to get the 100 mount achievement with less mounts in the game... i seem to be focusing on mount rewards here cuz thats the latest thing i noticed... anyway ive ranted enough... respond or dont, i dont care, and neither does blizzard... they know they will get our money every month anyway

We would like to motivate everyone by making unique mount rewards for various aspects of the game. We believe that the method we use for doing so is fairly sound in theory and in practice. While it may be unpopular to remove particular rewards, we believe it is necessary to ensure that their population is appropriately dispersed and not inflated. This keeps these mounts as something of a symbol of skill and accomplishment.

As for the 100-mount achievement, we have added additional mounts through other means to make certain that this is doable by players who do not have the aforementioned unique mounts.

Scali

Emerald Dream

15. Re: Blizzard hates slower progressing guilds 05/26/2009 11:39:02 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
first

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enjoy life on the red carpet, you deserve it!

-Saex
Every link is a keylogger link.

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More like... bro active

Apparently, you can't have any sexual innuendo in your sig.

Crygil

Blizzard Poster

16. Re: Blizzard hates slower progressing guilds 05/26/2009 11:40:34 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
they love slow progression guilds, Your due to kill mimiron this month, check out the nerfs.

We love all guilds. Even guilds that don't participate at all in progression. They help to make this game into a community.

Hippolytus

< Unnatural Axe >

Cenarius

17. Re: Blizzard hates slower progressing guilds 05/26/2009 11:42:00 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

We would like to motivate everyone by making unique mount rewards for various aspects of the game. We believe that the method we use for doing so is fairly sound in theory and in practice. While it may be unpopular to remove particular rewards, we believe it is necessary to ensure that their population is appropriately dispersed and not inflated. This keeps these mounts as something of a symbol of skill and accomplishment.

The flaw in this argument that it's just as difficult to complete this achievement 6 months from now if you incorporate the same technology you do in a few other achievements by limiting ilevel in the encounters. It may be harder work to put "without any player equipping an item with ilevel > x" but it would allow you to keep the difficulty of the achievement and please casuals

Yohakata

< Endurance >

Khadgar

18. Re: Blizzard hates slower progressing guilds 05/26/2009 11:42:12 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

As for the 100-mount achievement, we have added additional mounts through other means to make certain that this is doable by players who do not have the aforementioned unique mounts.

And even THIS takes dedication. It aint easy farming rep for all those factions for mounts. buying every one of those mounts (meaning dedicated to farming) and then dedicating yourself to farming all the rare drop mounts.

also... gold for all the mammoths. yowza. THIS achievement will cost ya

Florimel

< Mermeros >

Ysera

19. Re: Blizzard hates slower progressing guilds 05/26/2009 11:43:00 PM PDT

while I'm not against letting everyone do the instances, seeing someone who killed a boss a month after I did with the drop I want makes me go sadface

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