Does anyone know of a good healing meter that takes into account absorption?

Recount and http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/recountguessedabsorbs.aspx

Not 100% accurate but about the only tool out atm.

I've been using Skada. I dunno how accurate it is, but it at least has a meter for absorbs.

Here's the link: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/skada.aspx

Why is it relevant?

If your guild is complaining about you being the lowest in terms of effective healing, i think its time you found a new guild.

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Why is it relevant?

If your guild is complaining about you being the lowest in terms of effective healing, i think its time you found a new guild.

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Why is it relevant?

If your guild is complaining about you being the lowest in terms of effective healing, i think its time you found a new guild.

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this is a really common misconception among disc priests. just because you're disc doesn't mean you do 0 actual healing. i've seen disc priests maintain a steady 2k hps while shielding their hearts out and providing a ton of absorbtion. in the same raids i've seen disc priests not even reaching 1k hps. (EDIT: keep in mind, holy priests and other healers will hit 3-4k hps, so yes I realize disc will always be lower hps, but there is such a thing as "too low")

disc priests think they are immune to being bad because they can fall back on the "it's my bubbles!" argument. well, just as there are bad holy priests, there are bad disc priests, and healing meters can measure the capabilities of disc as well as holy in the same way. (whether they are useful at ALL is another argument...) but meters will tell you for instance, how often the disc priest casts penance, PoM, etc... and lemme tell ya, if the disc priest has 20 penance casts in a fight, no amount of absorb is gonna make up for that fail.

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this is a really common misconception among disc priests. just because you're disc doesn't mean you do 0 actual healing. i've seen disc priests maintain a steady 2k hps while shielding their hearts out and providing a ton of absorbtion. in the same raids i've seen disc priests not even reaching 1k hps. (EDIT: keep in mind, holy priests and other healers will hit 3-4k hps, so yes I realize disc will always be lower hps, but there is such a thing as "too low")

disc priests think they are immune to being bad because they can fall back on the "it's my bubbles!" argument. well, just as there are bad holy priests, there are bad disc priests, and healing meters can measure the capabilities of disc as well as holy in the same way. (whether they are useful at ALL is another argument...) but meters will tell you for instance, how often the disc priest casts penance, PoM, etc... and lemme tell ya, if the disc priest has 20 penance casts in a fight, no amount of absorb is gonna make up for that fail.

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Half true

While any priest should be pulling his weight, its always important to interpret healing meters first and foremost.

Was the disc priest tank healing? was he floating around healing? Not every situation is the same and thats why HPS is different fights.


However yes, this is a sad fact that many disc priest priests hide behind the absorption aspect. We have other heals, and if we're sitting at 90% mana the entire fight. Then we're not doing it right.

I love how a simple addon question turned into a disc priest don't top the meters QQ thread.

Zomg Neth! Our candle has returned ^^ And Neth has the gist of it.

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I love how a simple addon question turned into a disc priest don't top the meters QQ thread.

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the point is actually that regular old recount should be all you need to determine whether a disc priest is pulling his/her weight. you don't need to track absorbs unless you want it for your own personal knowledge and well-being.

if a guild needs to see absorption amounts to determine the skill level of a disc healer, then i would honestly be scared of that guild. i raid with a disc priest and i can tell he's good by the fact that 1. the tank never dies and 2. he still makes a noteworthy representation in meters all the while keeping the tank comfortably topped off.

i don't see what good would come of an absorption tracker other than a disc priest saying "zomg look at all the damage I prevented!"

EDIT: for WOW a blue post... and I agree... although I think in a perfect world priests would not be measured by the tree of their spec, but by the content of their overall raid performance.

*is happy to see the candle*

If you wanna measure if a disc priest is doing their job, look at Glyph of Power Word Shield heals and see if they are effective or not.

See how many times it's cast and you can also configure grid to see Weakened Soul + Power Word Icon.

If you see a lot of people with the Weakened Soul and no Power Word Shield icon, then they are doing the job.

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If you wanna measure if a disc priest is doing their job, look at Glyph of Power Word Shield heals and see if they are effective or not.

See how many times it's cast and you can also configure grid to see Weakened Soul + Power Word Icon.

If you see a lot of people with the Weakened Soul and no Power Word Shield icon, then they are doing the job.

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Oh whoops here's my actual Priest.

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Unfortunately, it's relevant (to some people) due to others still not quite understanding that one of the strengths of Discipline is the ability to mitigate damage, not just heal it. More people are beginning to understand this, but there are others that focus only on effective healing and aren't looking at the larger picture. I can understand people looking for a way to show others how their additional abilities are of benefit to their group or raid since it's not something easily measured. It just seems unfortunate that you'd have to.

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As a raid leader, you need measurables to help define where problems exist so that you may correct the problems. You can't just assume everyone is performing optimally all the time.

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Unfortunately, it's relevant (to some people) due to others still not quite understanding that one of the strengths of Discipline is the ability to mitigate damage, not just heal it. More people are beginning to understand this, but there are others that focus only on effective healing and aren't looking at the larger picture. I can understand people looking for a way to show others how their additional abilities are of benefit to their group or raid since it's not something easily measured. It just seems unfortunate that you'd have to.

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Any chance of blizz adding in a default and reliable damage/healing meter in the future?

IMO, take a combat log and upload it to a site like wowmeteronline.com, it'll give you a better picture of how you're doing that RecountGuessedAbsorbs will because that tends to assume all your bubbles are fully used when they aren't, and that all absorb effects are yours.

Holy will always be better than Disc. The utility Disc brings is capped at exactly one shield per 15 seconds. In general, you cannot rely on a Disc priest, especially in healing intensive small group fights (Ulduar 10 Iron Concil / Hodir / Ignis).

Holy is capped only by the amount of damage people take.

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Holy will always be better than Disc. The utility Disc brings is capped at exactly one shield per 15 seconds. In general, you cannot rely on a Disc priest, especially in healing intensive small group fights (Ulduar 10 Iron Concil / Hodir / Ignis).

Holy is capped only by the amount of damage people take.

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Holy will always be better than Disc. The utility Disc brings is capped at exactly one shield per 15 seconds. In general, you cannot rely on a Disc priest, especially in healing intensive small group fights (Ulduar 10 Iron Concil / Hodir / Ignis).

Holy is capped only by the amount of damage people take.

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I personally think you're wrong. A Disc priest is just fine in 10mans. Yes, they can only bubble each person once every 15 secs, but that's EACH PERSON in the raid that can continuously having 7k dmg mitigated every 15secs. Not to mention how strong Penance is for fast and strong healing. Then you add in DA procs and it makes your other healer's jobs all the more easier.