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  • 580. Re: Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change   05/22/2009 01:23:04 PM PDT
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Nerfs are rarely (if ever) something that returns positive feedback, but we feel this change is necessary to bring this profession more in-line with the bonuses from the other professions.



So why not bring other profession in line with JC by providing buffs?


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The stat bonuses are meant to stand on their own, not provide extra socket bonuses or ignore meta-gem requirements.


The gems have been designed that way since Wrath went live
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  • 581. Re: Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change   05/22/2009 01:23:28 PM PDT
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Lets see. Enchanting = +38 spell power. JC with this change and new epic gems 32 SP - 23SP = 9 x 3 = 27. Nerf Enchanting.


You can't say anything about epic gems cause you have no idea how they will be implemented and/or how JC will be buffed when they are.

I suspect that they will all be unique gems that you can only have one of, that's how it looks like its going to be, and basically that means that everyone will only have 1 epic gem to compete with their JC gems, so it would only be an issue if you have 3 or less sockets.
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  • 582. Re: Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change   05/22/2009 01:23:50 PM PDT
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This is absolute garbage. Pris gems will lose their value relating to epics (assuming they're to be released later) and the remaining benefit will be the prismatic function.

Do not go through with this.
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  • The Venture Co
  • 583. Re: Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change   05/22/2009 01:24:27 PM PDT
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lol.

A man's IQ, yearly income, sexual prowess, ingenuity, physical appearance and generally every other aspect of his character can be condensed down to four digits: his Arena rating.
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  • Dragonblight
  • 584. Re: Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change   05/22/2009 01:24:47 PM PDT
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instead of nerfing jcing you should buff the other professions to make them just as worthwhile as jcing.
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  • 585. Re: Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change   05/22/2009 01:25:16 PM PDT
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I'm just frustrated 'cuz I know this nerf was do to QQers... but than again, that's all Bliz listens to :/
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  • 588. Re: Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change   05/22/2009 01:26:37 PM PDT
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Nerfs are rarely (if ever) something that returns positive feedback, but we feel this change is necessary to bring this profession more in-line with the bonuses from the other professions. The stat bonuses are meant to stand on their own, not provide extra socket bonuses or ignore meta-gem requirements.



... And this raises another question. You let divine plea go live with a 20% healing penalty, then claimed later that "it wasn't something holy paladins were meant to hit on cooldown. It should be a choice." As soon as prismatic gems went live (and even before then), everyone used them as a way to activate socket bonuses from less-than-ideal sockets and to circumvent meta-gem requirements, yet now we are hearing that isn't what was intended.

It's not that either of the changes is *necessarily* unwarranted, but these are things that stood for a long time, then all of a sudden and without any real warning we hear "not only is that thing you're doing overpowered, but despite how long you've been doing it was never intended."

Now I'm honestly a bit paranoid about picking up any new ability or item and trying to play around with it. Are you going to just issue a blanket statement on how to use every ability? Because anymore it seems like if anyone does *anything* that breaks the mold even slightly, it's nerfed or changed somehow. I have no idea what ability is next, but I know it will be something that we've been doing since WotLK went live.
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  • 589. Re: Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change   05/22/2009 01:26:41 PM PDT
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So, if you are taking away the prismatic quality shouldn't we then be able to at least make two-color/stat versions? At least then we will be able to retain some benefit.
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  • 590. Re: Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change   05/22/2009 01:26:58 PM PDT
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Well, time to drop JC and level enchanting. From a tanks perspective as of right now JC gives 3 more stam then enchanting. But when epic gems come they will most likely be the 30 stam ones we've seen on WoW head.
41-30 = 11. 11x3 = 33 stam extra for JC, 48 Extra for Enchanting. There will be ZERO reason to stay JC.

You're not going to take away min/maxxing, you're just going to make us switch more.


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  • The Venture Co
  • 591. Re: Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change   05/22/2009 01:27:20 PM PDT
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This is the part where they roll out Blizzards new Paid Profession Change. Just log in to account management, pay 20$ and enjoy your new profession!

Why do you guys insist on screwing this game up more and more with each passing year?


They have a new MMO coming out in the next couple of years, they have to kill this one off.

The new MMO will likely cost an extra dollar or two to play a month so they don't want to compete with themselves.

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  • 593. Re: Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change   05/22/2009 01:27:49 PM PDT
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In the next major content patch we will be removing the prismatic quality of the jewelcrafter-only Dragon’s Eye gems. Like other gems, they will have to match the socket color to receive a socket bonus. When this change occurs, players with qualifying jewelcrafting skill will be provided a yet to be determined amount of Dalaran Jewelecrafter Tokens as compensation.



Please reconsider this. It will be a slap in the face to all of the people who dropped their professions for jewelcrafting.

Now watch people drop jewelcrafting for blacksmithing en masse. :/
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  • 594. Re: Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change   05/22/2009 01:27:52 PM PDT
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LOL @ anyone if you didn't see that JC was gonna be nerfed, you knew it was op, thats why you chose it.
"OH NOEZ its gonna be inline with other professions!OMG!WTF!!!1!!1


No honestly i choose for my love of gems outside of WoW, so when i could cut gems in WoW why wouldn't i take that oppurtunity. It makes me connect with my rogue in a way that only WoW has ever allowed me to do in a game, others have done similiarly but never in the same way.
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  • 595. Re: Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change   05/22/2009 01:28:07 PM PDT
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Vous faites chier!

J'avais une bonne journée mais la il y a une tonne de briques qui me tombent dessus.

Merci!
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  • The Venture Co
  • 596. Re: Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change   05/22/2009 01:28:21 PM PDT
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Well, time to drop JC and level enchanting. From a tanks perspective as of right now JC gives 3 more stam then enchanting. But when epic gems come they will most likely be the 30 stam ones we've seen on WoW head.
41-30 = 11. 11x3 = 33 stam extra for JC, 48 Extra for Enchanting. There will be ZERO reason to stay JC.

You're not going to take away min/maxxing, you're just going to make us switch more.


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  • 597. Re: Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change   05/22/2009 01:29:18 PM PDT
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What about other professions? I personally and respectfully believe this will not bring JC in line with other professions, but below other profs.


That may be your uninformed opinion, but the facts state oterhwise. The stat bnous will be the same as others, with the exception of when you only have like 3 sockets of off colors. Once you have decent gear with 5+ sockets its going to be the same stat bonus as everything else.
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  • Drak'thul
  • 598. Re: Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change   05/22/2009 01:29:24 PM PDT
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I personally rolled JC for the prismatics, not necessarily the ridiculous stats. However, since the word "flavor" is tossed around an awful lot when developers talk about professions, why don't they give us a chance to choose which "flavor" of JC we like, by offering 2 sets of dragon's eyes that cannot be mixed in any way

Set 1: Nerf as announced, same stats, non prismatic.
Set 2: Nerf the stats, keep them prismatic.

I'd be willing to bet the majority of current JC's would prefer option 2. And all the sudden JC STATS are sub-par compared to other professions, but the "flavor" remains intact. Because I know as well as anybody else reading this that the only "flavor" that JC truly has is in the prismatic quality of the Dragon's Eyes.
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  • 599. Re: Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change   05/22/2009 01:29:47 PM PDT
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Lets see. Enchanting = +38 spell power. JC with this change and new epic gems 32 SP - 23SP = 9 x 3 = 27. Nerf Enchanting.


What epic gems? You can only have one of them from the fishing daily.

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