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  • 0. Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 09:17:32 AM PDT
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Thanks for screwing Shamans as always Blizzard I mean really you didn't even bother to post in this patch about the change to Lighting Overload then you go and make Paladins blessings better than our totem... WOW... Thats all I am going to say... Thank you for truly showing shaman how much you think of them and the players who play.

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  • The Venture Co
  • 1. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 09:21:36 AM PDT
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My improved totem still overwrites it. Shaman revenge incoming.

Healing is 80% boredom and 20% OMFG FASTER FASTER WTF IS HE DOING IN THE FIRE DAMNIT TO HELL CRIT CRIT PLZ CRIT WTF TANK DAMN SQUISHIES OMG.
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  • Rivendare
  • 2. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 09:23:30 AM PDT
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Q u o t e:
Thanks for screwing Shamans as always Blizzard I mean really you didn't even bother to post in this patch about the change to Lighting Overload then you go and make Paladins blessings better than our totem... WOW... Thats all I am going to say... Thank you for truly showing shaman how much you think of them and the players who play.



Its alot easier on ya if you just ignore all the attention mages and pallys have gotten.

Im just waiting for Kalgan to get bored andm ove on, hopefully to a shaman or balance druid :P

I got a arcane mage in the leveling just incase.

Maybe Ill pick up my pally later.

All I saw leveling up on my shaman were pallies and now its just all pallies and DKs in outland... Wonder which way the wind is blowing? -.-

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  • 3. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 09:31:21 AM PDT
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Q u o t e:
Thanks for screwing Shamans as always Blizzard I mean really you didn't even bother to post in this patch about the change to Lighting Overload then you go and make Paladins blessings better than our totem... WOW... Thats all I am going to say... Thank you for truly showing shaman how much you think of them and the players who play.


Yeah, this is a really stupid change. Can anyone clarify why they did it? Why is a static 5 minute totem worse than a 10 minute buff?
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  • Daggerspine
  • 4. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 09:35:56 AM PDT
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I'd prefer they stack, but if bow and ms aren't going to stack I much prefer bow be the more powerful one.
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  • 5. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 09:38:38 AM PDT
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"Blessing of Wisdom and Greater Blessing of Wisdom: Now grant 92 mana per 5 seconds to prevent being overwritten by Mana Spring Totem."

What a joke. Why can't one shaman spell be better than a paladin one?

Whats next? Making the deathknight horn better so strength of earth totem doesn't overwrite that?
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  • 6. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 09:41:47 AM PDT
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"Blessing of Wisdom and Greater Blessing of Wisdom: Now grant 92 mana per 5 seconds to prevent being overwritten by Mana Spring Totem."

What a joke. Why can't one shaman spell be better than a paladin one?

Whats next? Making the deathknight horn better so strength of earth totem doesn't overwrite that?


It's to prevent people like me from dropping mana spring totem to overwrite it so our pallies have to buff wisdom a million times >.>.


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Can you imagine if you were playing Warcraft 3, and Arthas was named XxProtadinxX? You'd be like, "this is #%*%ing stupid".


-Burkokie
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  • 7. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 09:43:41 AM PDT
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It's to prevent people like me from dropping mana spring totem to overwrite it so our pallies have to buff wisdom a million times >.>.


But if it MS doesn't stack with BoW, and BoW is better, why do we even have MS? There's definitely no shortage of paladins.
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  • Rivendare
  • 8. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 09:45:49 AM PDT
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"we here at blizzard did not want this shaman thing to overwrite the spells of our player classes, as such we will continue to nerf and glitch these shamans until they go away, hopefulyl to reroll our EXCITING NEW DEATH KNIGHT CLASS! Or to try our new AND IMPROVED BEYOND ALL REASONABLE LIMITS Palladin and mage classes.

To those hopeing to play shamans, we dont care about you, you play an increasingly shrinking class with outdated abilities and a totem system Kalgan just plain finds tedious.

Un until the day he gets bored of his palladin, mage, and death knight, and rerolls a shaman, at which point they will get a free thundercload mount that shoots lighting nukes for 999999 damage on all enemies on the same server, shamen can suck it up and enjoy getting stunlocked, butchered, and out DPSed on every field.

Now standi n the back of the raid and heal, as not even out duel spec option can tempt what few priests remain, the druids, or the palladins to heal rather then DPS (truer on pvp servers then not)

With love

~Blizzard"

[ Post edited by Sonris ]


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  • 9. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 09:46:03 AM PDT
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Well, definitely one of the big reasons would have to be for hybrids in raids. We usually have at least 2 different specced shamans, paladins, and druids in our raids, so we can all get might + kings, and the shamans can drop MS totem. It's only a 1 mp5 difference, so, for all intents and purposes, they're the same buff, and the boomkins, ele shammies, and holy pallies have no qualms about it.


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Can you imagine if you were playing Warcraft 3, and Arthas was named XxProtadinxX? You'd be like, "this is #%*%ing stupid".


-Burkokie
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  • 10. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 09:52:18 AM PDT
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Dear paying shaman player

Thank you for your continued money and hope that we will actually pay attention to your class and do something useful for you. We regret to inform you that other classes complained about you for too long in Regular wow and well now it your turn to get nerf. Furthermore we could really careless that you unlike every class have Unique spell. Honestly we hate you all and want to find ways to have other classes do the same thing. So just take the hint.....

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  • 11. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 09:53:23 AM PDT
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... And reroll one of the classes that you hate so that we can just get on with the process of marginalizing shamans.

Sincerly

BLIZZARD

Ps Play Star craft 2 damnit

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  • 12. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 09:57:55 AM PDT
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Sorry to my Shaman brothers and sister about the triple post it just a funny point I would kinda like to make.


I don't get blizzard reasoning any more I just don't understand. I have been playing since Reg I only had a shaman and until Lich i never looked at another class except for a minor little play around for the experence of level fad. That i get every once in a while. Now because of the boiling down of the shaman i have 4 high level character on my sever and I just find myself playing my shaman less and less and doing the things that I want to do on my shaman less and less.

Though I know from visiting other forum QQ is universal. Every other class says there underpowered and they can't win or they are being boiled down. EVEN PALADINS which makes me laugh and tell them to roll and shaman and then talk about being under powered.

I am just really getting tired of blizzards excuses and the little things they say.

Take the kid gloves off blizzard just say it. You want us gone.

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  • 13. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 10:04:44 AM PDT
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Thanks for screwing Shamans as always Blizzard I mean really you didn't even bother to post in this patch about the change to Lighting Overload then you go and make Paladins blessings better than our totem... WOW... Thats all I am going to say... Thank you for truly showing shaman how much you think of them and the players who play.


Lightning Overload was a hotfix as discussed previously here- http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16904209636&sid=1

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  • The Forgotten Coast
  • 14. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 10:06:41 AM PDT
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Get owned by Blues, cry babies. Just be glad no sham specs got nerfed and move on with it.

And who cares if BoW is now > MS? You're getting buffed 1MP5. Think of it that way. =p

[ Post edited by Vhaman ]

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  • Rivendare
  • 15. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 10:06:59 AM PDT
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Lightning Overload was a hotfix as discussed previously here- http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16904209636&sid=1


Well thank you for the answer, that clears that up.

Still there are other issues to contend with but thank for the response to this one.

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  • 16. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 10:08:34 AM PDT
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Oh I totally agree Spirit I think blizzards claims of shamans being hybrids are B&#$@IT. Look at a druid and tell me that a hybrid class can't do any one of there specs well. Why blizzard hates shamans so much is a damn mystery and Ive considered calling out the Hardie Boys. :P Maybe if a member of blizzard had the balls to play a shaman and realize just how bad off we are they would give us a few changes but I seriously doubt it. They don't have the guts to play a class they know is badly underpowered.

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  • Mal'Ganis
  • 17. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 10:09:01 AM PDT
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But if it MS doesn't stack with BoW, and BoW is better, why do we even have MS? There's definitely no shortage of paladins.


Because Blizzard doesn't balance based on population?
This was only put in place so someone can run into the radius of a MST with BoW and run out with it still on. 1 Mp5 is not game breaking and will not cost you your raids spot, warriors didn't complain when B-Shout got the same treatment for BoM.

Would you honestly rather NOT have MST JUST because the paladin blessing is 1 Mp5 better for a legit reason?

WoW you A Dude ass

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Nethaera
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  • 18. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 10:09:01 AM PDT
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Well thank you for the answer, that clears that up.

Still there are other issues to contend with but thank for the response to this one.


Please feel free to post your questions and topics of discussion in the Shaman Questions thread I just posted. We'll be doing a whole series of Q&As with all of the classes. :)

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17223094468&sid=1

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  • Rivendare
  • 19. Re: Not one thing in this patch....   05/19/2009 10:09:36 AM PDT
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Get owned by Blues, cry babies. Just be glad no sham specs got nerfed and move on with it.

And who cares if BoW is now > MS? You're getting buffed 1MP5. Think of it that way. =p


WHiel this is true the spirit nerf kind of mellows out this, though I will say my shaman has the fewest amounts of mana problems of all my classes, however he also lacks untrinketable/bubble proof CC and has extremly low health.

Getting killed in one barrage during a stun is a bigger concern for me them living long enough to oom.

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