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  • Darrowmere
  • 0. @ Neth    05/20/2009 09:22:02 AM PDT
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I know that we are not supposed to fish for blue response or call out a CM deliberately, but I have a question pertaining to the question stick that was put up yesterday and I think that it might clear up a little of the process from our end (not to mention wondering and questions about the questionnaire.)

Are you only going to gather the questions that are the most asked and deal with those, or are you also going to throw in a few questions that like one or two people asked that seemed rather valid also?

What time frame are we looking at for when these questions are answered? I understand that you would want to give all of the community time to ask the burning questions they have, but perhaps finding the most prevalent questions and answering them pretty soon might quell anymore repeat posts of the same thing.

Also, how in depth are the answers going to be? Like possibly giving the design philosophy behind something, or just a straight this is X and this is Y? Answering this might help us come up with better in depth questions.

I feel like I am leaving something out and I might edit this, but those are the main questions about the questionnaire that i have.

Thanks for your time Neth if you do decide to answer these questions, and my fellow shamans please add to it if you have a question about the question post that is stickied at the top of our corner of the forum world.

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  • Doomhammer
  • 1. Re: @ Neth    05/20/2009 09:26:31 AM PDT
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we don't need another blue thread ... we are over budget on blue as it is.

just post your stuff in the main sticky if serious .... jepordy fashion in the form of a question

or in one of the sub threads for non serious .... or stuff that is more qq or random theory.

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  • 2. Re: @ Neth    05/20/2009 09:53:28 AM PDT
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Q u o t e:
I know that we are not supposed to fish for blue response or call out a CM deliberately, but I have a question pertaining to the question stick that was put up yesterday and I think that it might clear up a little of the process from our end (not to mention wondering and questions about the questionnaire.)

Are you only going to gather the questions that are the most asked and deal with those, or are you also going to throw in a few questions that like one or two people asked that seemed rather valid also?

What time frame are we looking at for when these questions are answered? I understand that you would want to give all of the community time to ask the burning questions they have, but perhaps finding the most prevalent questions and answering them pretty soon might quell anymore repeat posts of the same thing.

Also, how in depth are the answers going to be? Like possibly giving the design philosophy behind something, or just a straight this is X and this is Y? Answering this might help us come up with better in depth questions.

I feel like I am leaving something out and I might edit this, but those are the main questions about the questionnaire that i have.

Thanks for your time Neth if you do decide to answer these questions, and my fellow shamans please add to it if you have a question about the question post that is stickied at the top of our corner of the forum world.


Good questions and I'm happy to answer them for you.

First, I'm going to try to pull up the most prominent questions, however if I see a question that I know is long lived, but hasn't ever seen an answer and think I might be able to get one for it or update it, I will.

Second, it's probably going to be a couple of weeks before we can get answers out. Reason being, we want to give everyone both here and in the international communities a chance to get their questions out there as well. I'm not going to give a specific date just in case we run into a strange time crunch that puts a kibosh on it. I just want everyone to be aware that you shouldn't expect a slew of answers right away. As I said in the main general post, we have a plan that we're going on and want to make sure we get everyone covered.

Third, we'll try to go as in depth as we can, but keep in mind, spending more time on one question may cost others from being answered and sometimes we may not be able to get more in depth if there is something we're working on but can't discuss as of yet. We'll try to give as much information as we can though.

Also, once we've answered questions for each class via a main post, we will still be hanging around to answer any other thing we can. We're not going anywhere anytime soon, though at some point you may see a different Community Manager stopping in other than me. :)

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  • 5. Re: @ Neth    05/20/2009 11:03:45 AM PDT
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Good questions and I'm happy to answer them for you.

First, I'm going to try to pull up the most prominent questions, however if I see a question that I know is long lived, but hasn't ever seen an answer and think I might be able to get one for it or update it, I will.

Second, it's probably going to be a couple of weeks before we can get answers out. Reason being, we want to give everyone both here and in the international communities a chance to get their questions out there as well. I'm not going to give a specific date just in case we run into a strange time crunch that puts a kibosh on it. I just want everyone to be aware that you shouldn't expect a slew of answers right away. As I said in the main general post, we have a plan that we're going on and want to make sure we get everyone covered.

Third, we'll try to go as in depth as we can, but keep in mind, spending more time on one question may cost others from being answered and sometimes we may not be able to get more in depth if there is something we're working on but can't discuss as of yet. We'll try to give as much information as we can though.

Also, once we've answered questions for each class via a main post, we will still be hanging around to answer any other thing we can. We're not going anywhere anytime soon, though at some point you may see a different Community Manager stopping in other than me. :)


Not to really antagonize you neth but out of the 24 pages i'm pretty sure all relevant (and irrelevant) questions have been asked. There is really no point on prolonging this for weeks.
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  • 7. Re: @ Neth    05/20/2009 11:12:14 AM PDT
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Not to really antagonize you neth but out of the 24 pages i'm pretty sure all relevant (and irrelevant) questions have been asked. There is really no point on prolonging this for weeks.



Let the guy do his job, you should be happy that they're even willing to do some sort of feedback after all of this time being ignored.

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  • 8. Re: @ Neth    05/20/2009 11:15:50 AM PDT
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Not to really antagonize you neth but out of the 24 pages i'm pretty sure all relevant (and irrelevant) questions have been asked. There is really no point on prolonging this for weeks.



We don't tend to do things fast if we want to do them well. It's going to apply here as well and we are making sure we are as thorough and inclusive as possible on this. We also want to make sure that any information we put together can be shared with our global community and not just one region. I understand that you'd like this process to go fast, but believe me, once we start posting these, you'll see two classes addressed each week. Given that we're just starting the process, we wanted to give ourselves the time we needed to get it all together before letting it all get rolling.

Also keep in mind, addressing class questions won't mean that we're done talking. It will just mean that we've at least put together a large source of answers for you and will work to expand on more as we go. It just may not be presented the same.

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  • Lightbringer
  • 10. Re: @ Neth    05/20/2009 11:32:02 AM PDT
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I also don't mean to an antagonize, but please read the paragraphs below this.

Summary of questions thread:

Totems
PvP
Totems
Health Too Low
Totems
Ghost Wolf requests (i.e. people asking for it to be usable indoors, break roots, base instant cast w/o talents)
Totems
PvP
Totems
Miscellaneous other requests
Totems
PvP
Totems

Perhaps a response on one of the... err... more "popular" subjects listed here should get an early response, so that we can get those things out of our minds and be able to focus on asking a wider variety of questions. Right now, its pretty tough for the community to think of anything besides Totems and PvP and Health Concerns because those are the biggest things facing us that we've been talking about for a long time and haven't received any real feedback from the devs on.

All I'm saying is, if devs can give early feedback on those things, you'll get a broader spectrum of questions, which I assume is what you want since you've stated you want the entire community and regional representation in the questions. Otherwise, it will just continue to be about Totems, and PvP, and health concerns.

Work with us here, we <3 you.

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  • 12. Re: @ Neth    05/20/2009 11:34:38 AM PDT
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Q u o t e:
Summary of questions thread:

Totems
PvP
Totems
Elemental Itemization
Health Too Low
Totems
Elemental DPS
Ghost Wolf requests (i.e. people asking for it to be usable indoors, break roots, base instant cast w/o talents)
Totems
Elemental Itemization
PvP
Totems
Elemental DPS
Miscellaneous other requests
Totems
Elemental Itemization
PvP
Totems


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  • Lightbringer
  • 13. Re: @ Neth    05/20/2009 11:35:36 AM PDT
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y ty sir!
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  • 14. Re: @ Neth    05/20/2009 11:47:00 AM PDT
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I'm pretty sure I saw Enhancement Shaman also asking about itemization too. Just please be patient. We'll get to what we can.

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  • Vek'nilash
  • 15. Re: @ Neth    05/20/2009 11:57:22 AM PDT
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I'm pretty sure I saw Enhancement Shaman also asking about itemization too. Just please be patient. We'll get to what we can.

A good hefty slow, one handed axe would be lovely for enhancement from ulduar.

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  • Korgath
  • 16. Re: @ Neth    05/20/2009 11:59:21 AM PDT
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I'm pretty sure I saw Enhancement Shaman also asking about itemization too. Just please be patient. We'll get to what we can.


/signed

enhance itemization is limited as well. however like the person several posts up said. totems, pvp, and hp pools are most assuredly the top issues for 90% of the community right now. To us, those things are BROKEN not things we would like to see tweaked. Once we get an idea of what is going to be done to fix the broken items then we can move on to questions about other things like dps levels, itemization, spells, and abilities.

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  • Twisting Nether
  • 17. Re: @ Neth    05/20/2009 12:04:29 PM PDT
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Two classes at a time. Do you have a list of what the order of the classes are? Just curious, but i'm assuming this is info you cannot disclose at this time :)
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  • Daggerspine
  • 18. Re: @ Neth    05/20/2009 12:09:21 PM PDT
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I'm pretty sure I saw Enhancement Shaman also asking about itemization too. Just please be patient. We'll get to what we can.


I don't know the current shape of enhancement shamans in PvE, be it gear, rotations, or actual dps.

You're asking us to be patient while you address these concerns, my question is why should we?

Why is it that when WoTLK raids first came out and it was just naxx/os/vault/EoE Blizzard failed to provide any elemental gear besides t7 gear. You literally gave us no mail gear that had hit rating and sp on it. We were forced to wear our tier gear with cloth and leather.

Why is it that you guys gave us Mp5 on our tier7 gloves. A stat we clearly do not need which forced us to not use it. Like seriously who sat there and thought that one up when giving those gloves mp5. "Hey let's give elemental shamans a stat they definately don't need" You might as well put str on it, or put int on warrior gloves.

Why is it that you guys made our BiS weapon a healing mace from naxx.

Why is it, that now, with new emblem gear you guys have failed to provide any elemental shaman gear from badges besides t8 gear? Everything has spirit or mp5 on it. Even the cloth/leather. If any of that stuff gets deemed BiS it's going to have wasted stats on it. And if it's not then there's no point for me to even have emblems of conquest really.

And now why is it that you ask us to be patient. Why should we? I'm not able to get on WoW right now and start cruising through atlas loot again but I think I have yet to see mail gear with hit rating + sp + crit or haste on it from ulduar.

I'm not trying to be angry, I know things can take time but this is getting to the point of "hey I have a 46 paladin I could be leveling up right now and go ret with him. Or I could start running naxx and gear up my lock or warrior instead."

It's like your ignoring us and telling us to be patient at the same time.

Sadly I feel the news flash must be this: We have been patient, and our patience is pratically at the edge known as rerolling.

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  • 19. Re: @ Neth    05/20/2009 12:09:35 PM PDT
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It is important to keep in mind that we have a schedule of classes we will be addressing and will be getting to each class individually over this period of time. Please note, this list is subject to change.

Shaman
Mage
Warlock
Death Knight
Paladin
Warrior
Hunter
Druid
Rogue
Priest


Mentioned in the link given in the sticky, yes Shaman are first for a change.
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